The 640 MEG Shareware Studio 4/The 640 Meg Shareware Studio CD-ROM Volume IV (Data Express)(1994).ISO/fidomail/cdsale.t04

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01 Utilities......$15   QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Game Arena..........$15
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25   Up All Night........$20   Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts......$29   Business Assistant..$15   Learning Adventure..$15
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Sound F/X Library...$29   Cookbook Heaven.....$29
Int's Graphics Libr.$33   Night Owl 9.........$37   The Holy Bible......$24

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2093
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 280+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

All callers may download our catalog on the first call, and to avoid the
new user questionnaire, log on as:  First name:  CD
                                    Last name:   ROM
                                    Password:    USER

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: JOHN CALLICRATE                        Number: 2094
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93 12:33p
Subj: COREL SCSI                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm going to be selling COREL SCSI soon.  It will have been opened, but
not registered.  I will be reviewing it for a client, and I won't need
it after that.  Anybody interested?  I'll probably sell it for about
$55.


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2095
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  9:43p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Mike,

When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
haven't seen or heard of it...

I know, I know, probably just screwed up my discount (grin).

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 2096
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  8:57p
Subj: Adaptec 1742b and CD Players            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!


Thanks to all who responded to my first posts.

But I am trying to find out about compatibility problems before I jump on a
particular model of CD player.

Here's what I want to do:

I run a BBS and would like to option to initially install one CD ROM drive, but
have the option to add more.  I want the best transfer speed for 14,400 baud
connects without slowdowns.  I want it to work smoothly with the adaptec 1742b
controller SCSI card, either internal or external to it.  Seamless integration
with Maximus files.bbs files.

Also the ability to access these CD ROMs from another desqview window on my
own.


Has anybody had experience with this controller with a certain brand  of CD ROM
player in multiple?

Or: the adaptec 1742b with the pioneer 6 disk changer unit?



Russell

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From: JOHN HISCOTT                           Number: 2097
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/16/93  9:20a
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Joe Stevens Scribbled:

 > I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked
 > at several models... the one whick is the least expensive and
 > still offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does

Mitsumi's Great, other then the slow speed.. Which really isnt that bad.. it is
FIne.. At least mine is.. and I like it and am Thinking of buying another one
in a couple weeks..

Well Mine had a 16 Bit Card.. Dunno about the rest though...

John

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2098
  To: KEVIN PAUSCHE                            Date: 07/16/93  8:56a
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KP> $190 for a used 600 ms?  New mitsumis can be purchased
 KP> for about $300 here..
 KP> And they're 350 ms and brand new

Well go ahead and buy one! The thing about the 350ms ones as that they are not
really that speed. they SAY 350ms, but that is only in one seek. When you buy a
cd-rom you should look for a 350ms multiple-pass seek. IE: avereage time after
200 seeks is 350ms and that would be a pretty fast cd-rom. Umm they were
advertized a 350ms (I just bought them) but I dont say that they are becasue in
fact, none of them really are.

So if you want, I have 2- 350ms (although they really are not) drives for
sale,$ 200 each. You have my address. (THIS IS CANANDIEN PRICES FOR ALL OF YOU
AMEREICAN READING THIS)

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2099
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/16/93  8:57a
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DK> Just thought I'd ket you know that you can purchase the LU005 drivers for
 DK> $187...

And if you convert that to Canadien you are looking at a price of $243.1

CJK

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From: DANIEL BENTLEY                         Number: 2100
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  6:35p
Subj: and...                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I forgot to to mention in my last message that I'm only interested in
catalogs from the U.S.  Also, I'm not interested in adult oriented
material.
                                             Daniel Bentley
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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2101
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/16/93  5:20a
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 Revie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tim can you tell me if the door that comes with it workes with
dorinfo*.def/exitinfo ? Also does it run any Cd or just So Much Shareware 3?
Thanks for any info. I'm desperate for a cd door to do this.


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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  5:25a
Subj: Any one want to trade?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have The Original Shareware 1992 CD that I would like to trade for any adult
CD.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2103
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 07/16/93  6:08p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR> Hello Michael!
 DR> Terry is a VERY respected man in this echo, and it'll take a lot more
 JR>   than the likes of you to change that.
 DR> Terry is honest enough that I send discs to him BEFORE being paid.
 MS> I have dealt with him several times, both from the
 JR>   sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
 JR>   honest in his dealings with me.
 JR> And this is a public warning for you to stop whining. tim moderator
 DR> Welcome to my twit filter, sport.
 JR> /JIM/
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 JR> * Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA [phone] USR 16.8DS
 JR> (1:377/50)

So is your capturing of bits and pieces of four out of say 400 people that read
this echo, expressing their devotion to a thief supposed to mean ANYTHING to
me.  Terry Woodward tried to steal a CD-Rom from me, I posted about it, finis.
If you love Terry so much, fine, hang with him. That still does not change the
fact that he is a liar, a fraud, and a thief, now does it?

 * MKRead v1.01 * *Four hours* to bury a cat?  Yeah, it wouldnt keep still.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2104
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 07/16/93  6:13p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MB > By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me
 MB > off?
 WD>         Hey KID, why don,t you go in the closet and play
 WD>        with your flashlight. More damn Whiners!!!!

If you consider a father of three, who is a property manager a kid, you must be
in your nineties by now, eh?  Must explain the grumpiness.

 * MKRead v1.01 * It's the cats' house.  We just pay the mortgage.


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From: BRIAN HURLEY                           Number: 2105
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/16/93  9:17a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please reply
  >back as to whether or not it is legible:


Looked good here..........

Brian

 * OLX 2.2 * Tagline Lotto: ##########<- Scratch here to reveal prize.

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2106
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/15/93 12:18a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Congratulations to you and Herb on your new home purchase.  Hope you are
getting along well.

As for your inquiry, there are a lot of CD-ROMs with text material on
them--disc preference depends on the subject material you're after.  Some discs
that I use are "Computer Select," a CD-ROM disc of one full year of the largest
number of computer magazines available on disc (i.e., PC World, PC Mag, etc.)
and "World Library," a CD-ROM disc of about a thousand publications including
all Shakespear's writings, all Sherlock Holmes stories, and several other
written works.  Several other companies have started producing their own discs
of literary works like Nimbus and the Bureau of Electronic Publishing.  The
Washington Times newspaper is available on CD-ROM for a reasonable price (about
$150) but other major newspapers are still only available on CD-ROM from some
of the large magazine companies for a few thousand dollars.  Newsweek on
CD-ROM, with video and sound clips will be released shortly and several other
new releases will be geared towards literary type materials with a multimedia
twist.  The discs mentioned above should be available from the larger CD-ROM
delaers in this echo.
Good luck and happy ROMing.


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From: PHILIP RUSSELL                         Number: 2107
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/01/93  8:37p
Subj: Re: cd price list 2/2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in a number of titles - particularly the educational
ones. What are your airmail fees on 20+ CDs to R.S.A. ? How long does
it take for post to get here ? What method of payment should I use ?
Where in the States are you, in case I have a friend go across soon ?

Regards,
Philip


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From: PHILIP RUSSELL                         Number: 2108
  To: NILL TOULME                              Date: 07/01/93  8:47p
Subj: Re: cdrom access prices 6               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 NT> ===  D-ROM ACCESS PRICE LIST FOR JUNE - REFERENCE AND BUSINESS
 NT> =======================================================================
Where is it ?? I thought it would follow ? Maybe it got lost in the
satellite connexion.
Philip

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2109
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:53a
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,
The Precision Mapping disk will only scan and find zip codes. All other search
attempts (city, street, area code) returns a no match found message. It won't
even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this a
bad disk or am I doing something wrong?
Please call me at 1-800-428-2835

Thanks,


Michael



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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 2110
  To: TOM CAMPBELL                             Date: 07/16/93  2:21p
Subj: Looking for a drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TC>    Adaptec 1542 SCSI Card

I see that you want to trade this away.  How much do you want to sell it for?
Do you have all of the drivers for it?  Do you have the Corel SCSI drivers?
Thanks.  If you would like to call me my number is
319-289-3977.  Thanks!

-=-
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2111
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/16/93 11:23p
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to install and it
works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under os/2.

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2112
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/16/93 11:30p
Subj: argh!  your list                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

disappeared before i saved it to disk.  would you please netmail it to me, or
repost your phone number, etc?  thanks... there were some CDs i wanted to
order!

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2
1:205/31 in fido...
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2113
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/16/93  8:20a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DM> Sounds like Digital Dreams will fit the bill for you. It is an R rated
DM>cd from Ero Tek. Claims original scans so that should take care of your

Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are from
commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards, like
Garlique and Nitelog. It isn't a bad disk but I don't think it would
hold up in court.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * For a photographer, life is just a bed of poses.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2114
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  8:35a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    Microsoft Works
 MS> MPC...........58.00
 MS> 7th Guest.....................54.00    MIDI Music
 MS> Shop...............31.00
 MS> Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Mixed Up Mother
 MS> Goose.........24.50
 MS> Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch
 MS> Notes.................64.00


This is what it looked like on my screen.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2115
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/17/93 11:24a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> MS>  CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC
 MS> MS> Gameroom...................28.00
 MS>
 MS> Mike,
 MS> Looked good to me until I attempted to "Quote" the sample and as
 MS> see...
 MS> Cutting the spaces down between list by about 4 should do it.
 MS>


This makes me think that MegaMail (my reader de jour) is screwing your
posts up when it displays them, Mike. I searched throught the congif
process but couldn't find a place where I could change its display
margins so I'm stuck until my fav FIDO BBS switches over to QWK format.
They're supposed to do that any day now (yeah, right). After that I can
use SLMR or OLX. The other FIDS BBS I use has only Blue Wave implemented
and I get the same results there with the same lack of anything to do
about it on my end. Since no one else is having a problem with your
formatting, I'll shut up and live with it.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2116
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/17/93 11:43a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/18/93  7:10a                       Private: No

 TH> moderator


Boy, I'm glad you've got this job and not me! Hang in there....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:22p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
Fax [phone] *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2118
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/17/93  2:51p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, I'll probally be giving the old one a shot.

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2119
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  2:54p
Subj: Busty Babes, before 3.0.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone got the above?  Not the newer one with a bunch of stuff removed? Also,
I've seen it advertised for $29, any dealers will match that?  If so, leave a
number for me to contact you at, I'd rather a BBS number where I can order
on-line as I've got a seperate data and voice line and my room-mate doesn't
like too many LD calls on the voice line.
Jason

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2120
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/17/93  7:46a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM Drives                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP> MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00
KP>
KP>   I am going to probly send you the Money next week for four
KP> CD-Rom's...
KP> Also, Can you get Mitsumi Drives ??  If so, I am wanting to buy a
KP> few of them,
KP> and maybe about 10 or so more Toshiba's ??  Interested

I'm interested.  Call me at 205-837-5053


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From: KEVIN ROBBINS                          Number: 2121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:28p
Subj: CD ROM Titles                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I am interested in purchasing a few CD ROM games.  If anyone has
 a game they want to sell let me know about it here on this echo.

Kevin Robbins 07/17/93 13:27
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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2122
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/16/93  7:02p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
 BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
 BK>
 BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
 BK>
 BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
 BK> TM>about it!!!
 BK>
 BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?

     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same initials!!!


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.

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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2123
  To: YO ANYBODY                               Date: 07/16/93  7:02p
Subj: Mac SCSI CD - ANY WAY                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I want a CD-ROM Drive! I have a Mac! It needs to be External and Able to
hook up IN SOME WAY to a SCSI interface. THOSE ARE THE *only* two
requirements!!! Except for it needs to be cheap! Dealers, hit me with all
the catalogs U want! Folks, palm off your old stuff on me! Mail me here or
at
    Benjamin Keen
    1528 Autumn Rd.
    Charleston, WV  25314-2306
    304/343-4447
-----BEN!



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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2124
  To: KEVIN DEW                                Date: 07/15/93  5:52p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KD>        Sound's good, but will it have any *.S3M's *.STM's or *.669's?
KD>I'm in to the "more than 4 channel" music now.. Let me know when it comes ou

Kevin, the Sysop's name is Walk Perko and he is accepting orders now.
In fact, he will not press the CD until he gets 15 more orders.
His BBS is devoted to .midi and other music-related stuff and he is a
very honest guy, so if you are really interest, I can get your his
number and you can place an order w. him.


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2125
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/15/93  6:10p
Subj: CD-WORLD 4                              Refer: NONE
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DM>                             CD-WORLD
DM> CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
DM> 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
DM> Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
DM>                                              FIDO 1:3647/2


I would like to place an order w/ you for 2 caddies at $4 each.
Is the above address correct? And check paybale to CD-WORLD?


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2126
  To: MICHAEL KANKO                            Date: 07/16/93 11:57a
Subj: Well                                    Refer: NONE
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MK> Well, since the lowest you've come across is $29 then is that a
MK> valid price for me to purchase it at?

It sure is.  I said I would match all other valid prices and I will.  Just give
us a call and let us know what you are interested in.  Thanks.

                                                Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS             Be sure to mention this message. * SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 2127
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 07/17/93  1:12p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Patrick!

Check is in the Mail I will take it...Shareware Overload....

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2128
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB>Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
JB>I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.

JD,

We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout if you
want one.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2129
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
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CK> MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

CK>Yup!
CK>PS- how long did you say it usually takes for a CD to get to Canada?

Chris,

It varies widely, but ordinarily within a week.  Your order shipped out
on 7/9, so you should be receiving it soon.  Customs can sometimes hold
things up.  BTW, Thanks for the report.   8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2130
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
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RK> > back as to whether or not it is legible:
RK> > Please give me your feedback on this also.

RK>It is comming accross in two nice neet columns

Thanks Red.  Probably just Bob picking on me again.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2131
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: .\\                                     Refer: NONE
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MJ> MS> .\\ichellea

MJ>Looks like the .\\ proliferation has begun!  <g>  Thought you'd be
interested
MJ>Best Regards.

MJ>,\\ark

Yeah, I know.  Actually, to be honest, I think I stole it from her!  8)
I've got a good one for "H" people:   ><arold    Oh well, back to the
drawing board.  Back on topic (I hope):  Thanx for the order.  (best I
could do on short notice   8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2132
  To: MIKE JORDAN                              Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
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MJ>  Mike, I'm a door author with 5 doors out and a 6th on it's way and I was
MJ>wondering if you would be interested in a trade of registrations for my
doors
MJ>for CDs?  I've already gotten Software Vault 2 (you are right, it's an
MJ>excellent CD) and Winbox (great if you want windows files) but I'd be
MJ>interested in getting Night Owl 9, Pier2 or any other Shareware type CD like
MJ>these.  If you are intersted I'll be glad to send you details on my doors.

I dunno.  Send whatever info you have, and I'll take a looksee.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE UPDATE  1/2                Refer: NONE
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 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/15
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 7th Guest.....................53.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...39.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart.........24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Birds...............26.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............26.00    National Parks................29.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................22.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................23.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 7.0.................24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............14.00    Night Owl 8.0.................29.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....37.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....15.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 C User's Group Library........31.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Our Solar System..............14.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phoenix 3.0...................15.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............39.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Goliath...............14.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....24.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............14.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Complete Bookshop.............14.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Composer Quest................37.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...107.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....77.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....77.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........34.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....37.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......14.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......14.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Overload............14.00
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2134
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE UPDATE  2/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Arena (New!).............15.00    Sound Sensations..............14.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    SoundWAV......................29.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Giga Games (New!).............24.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Global Explorer...............94.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Street Atlas USA..............87.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....18.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................14.00    Technotools...................14.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..29.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................26.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............14.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........24.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........15.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................27.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).20.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....15.00    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Wild Places...................24.00
 Lion's Share..................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Windoware.....................14.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    WizPak........................17.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............29.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............47.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2135
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/10/93  9:35p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
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In a message of <07 Jul 93  11:31:13>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you
 >have anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic
 >CD, leave me a message and maybe we can make a deal!
I will offer $40 shipped, or Nix Pix Hot Pix 3 (adult) and $10.


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 2136
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  4:59p
Subj: Summer Spectacular!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                            The MARKetplace!
                             1-800-289-1ROM
                  *** CD-ROM DISK SUMMER SPECIALS ***
                         July 17 - July 24, 1993

AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK.....$19     NIGHT OWL 7.0...................$19
AMINET..........................$17     OTHERWARE.......................$19
ANIMALS.........................$23     OUR SOLAR SYSTEM................$15
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION...........$18     PLAYING WITH LANGUAGE SPANISH...$19
CDWINBOX........................$24     PREMIUM MS-DOS SHAREWARE........$29
CICA WINDOWS....................$15     PREMIUM MS-WIN SHAREWARE........$29
CLIPART GOLIATH.................$15     PUBLISHER'S PARADISE............$29
DESERT STORM-LINE IN THE SAND...$19     RBBS IN A BOX...................$19
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE..............$25     SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND...........$15     SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA..........$35
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIPART.........$22     SHAREWARE STUDIO II.............$19
FONTMASTER CD LIBRARY II........$19     SHAREWARE 1993..................$19
GAMES 1993......................$19     SHAREWARE EXPLOSION.............$10
GROLIERS ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC/DOS...$35     SHERLOCK HOLMES CONSULT.DECT....$20
HOUSE OF GAMES..................$19     SIMTEL 20.......................$15
INDIANA JONES-FATE OF ATLANTIS..$46     SO MUCH SHAREWARE II............$19
KINGS QUEST VI..................$46   **SO MUCH SHAREWARE III...........$35
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD..........$19     SO MUCH SCREENWARE..............$25
MACMILLAN DIC. FOR CHILDREN.....$24     SOFTWARE VAULT II...............$22
MARKETING MASTER 92.............$15     STELLAR 7.......................$19
MAVIS BEACON TEACHES TYPING.....$19     U.S. PRESIDENTS.................$26
MAYO CLINIC.....................$24     ULTIMATE MOD COLLECTION.........$19
MEGA OS/2.......................$14     UP ALL NIGHT....................$21
MEGA CD-ROM #2..................$14     WINDOWS MASTER..................$15

TOSHIBA 3401 INTERNAL DRIVES...$449     TEXEL 3024 INTERNAL DRIVES.....$379
MITSUMI INTERNAL 350ms DRIVES..$199     SOUNDBLASTER PRO DELUXE........$129
***********          MEDIA VISION PRO AUDIO 16......$149    **************

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2137
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/18/93  1:03a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
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BT>Double standard there mike?
BT>moderator  this will be the last post about this subject <
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh Lord, please let it be TRUE.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2138
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 07/18/93  1:03a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PS>Shareware Overload has file list that I believe you can import into your
PS>BBS
PS>file listing.  Most of the file dated 1991-1992.  If you want it, I

Sorry,

This CD has PRIMARILY older shareware from the late 80's, early 90's. I
doubt that there is a single 1992 file on it which is TRULY dated 1992.
(i.e. not the ZIPfile date)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2139
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  2:25p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Mike!

In a message to John Robinson <07/15/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> JR>MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks
MS> JR>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
MS> JR>You were kidding of course.??? ( I hope )

MS> No, I was serious.  I'd like to know if my ads are line-wrapping or
MS> not.  Did it look OK?

On my editor it did but then they are all set up different...

John

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2140
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  2:28p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Mike!

In a message to Michael Benge <07/15/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> MB>By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual monetary
MS> damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate damage assessment
MS> for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?  I think we'd all like
MS> to know if your prolonged character assassination is actually
MS> warranted in relation to your out-of-pocket expenses.

What difference does it make.?? His editor is "stuck in whine mode"
anyway... Maybe that is why they have small claims courts.???

I don't know you from the door knob in the house next door but I suppose i
could say "you ripped me off".. (Gets lots of mail..<g>)

I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

John

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 2141
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 10:58a
Subj: .\\                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (17 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to Mark Johnsen...

 MS> MJ> MS> .\\ichellea

 MJ>Looks like the .\\ proliferation has begun!  <g>  Thought you'd be
 MS> MJ>interested Best Regards.
 MS> MJ>,\\ark

 MS> Yeah, I know.  Actually, to be honest, I think I stole it from her!
 MS> .\\ike

 Can anyone play?  Wow this is great!
 ∙\\ax

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From: SCOTT HUTCHINSON                       Number: 2142
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  1:50p
Subj: CD-ROM writer                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a CD-ROM writer.  Please reply to me with
specifications, price, and capabilities.  I can be reached at:

[phone] VOICE
[phone] BBS
1:104/127 FIDONET

Thanks,

Scott Hutchinson

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2143
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  8:13a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> ________________________________________________________________
 MS> ____
 MS>
 MS>                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
 MS> ________________________________________________________________
 MS> ____
 MS>


Ah, HA! It *IS* my MegaMail reader!! This same post was not line-wrapped
under BlueWave but (as you can see) is with MegaMail. Sorry for the
hassle I put you through, Mike (looking sheepish - shuffling feet (:|
...
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2144
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 1 of 2                    Refer: NONE
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MS>     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY
MS>     PURCHASE!!

Mike, what Shareware disc are you giving away for only $6.00?  It
wouldn't be anything silly like the O'Connor Original Shareware 1992
would it?  (Smile!)  I would hate to think that someone is still pawning
those things off.....

                                                Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2145
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
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SP>   Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM
SP>  drives on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast
SP>  speed drive for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive
SP>  for a BBS.

Actually, that's quite easy.  You have to load the drivers for both the
drives in the CONFIG.SYS, and then on the MSCDEX command in the
Autoexec.bat, you pull a trick like this:


c:\TSCSI\MSCDEX /d:TSLCD /d:mscd220 /d:MITSU /m:20 /l:D
                 ^        ^          ^
                 |        |          |--- Mitsumi Internal Driver
                 |        |--- Sony CDU-531 Driver
                 |--- SCSI Controller used w/3 Pioneer DRM-600a's

As you can see, not only am I running two drives, I'm actually running
five drives, of three completely different types here.  No Problem!  :)

                                        Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2146
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
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DC> All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi, don't
DC> have the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the caddy
DC> type drives have.

All too true.  The Caddy drives have a real maintenance problem.  I have
two NEC CDU-83's that have been in the shop twice already for service
problems... I've never had a Mitsumi or a Pioneer croak on me, though.

                                        Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2147
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
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MS> O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!

MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS
MS>              * No BBS ads or logos

If you are talking about the Digital Dreams from Ero Tek, there is
nothing from McHenry on it, and there is no apparent connection to that
BBS.  If you are talking about the apparent knockoff "Digital Dreams the
McHenry Collection", you should be stating that in your ads, in order to
prevent any market confusion.  It's bad enough that someone had to clone
the name, lets not get the issue confused... (smile!)

                                                Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2148
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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MS> Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and
MS> no BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs,

Robbie, you better make sure which "Digital Dreams" you are getting info
on.  It appears that Mike is giving you information on the so-called
"Digital Dreams McHenry Collection"... this is not the product from Ero
Tek.  The statistics on the disc from Ero Tek are as follows:

]]]     TITLE: Digital Dreams Volume 1
]]]      SIZE: 632 Megs
]]]     FILES: 2334
]]] PUBLISHER: Ero Tek Publishing
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult\BBS Ready\End User Ready

Digital Dreams is one of the best Adult oriented CD-ROM's to come down
the pike in a long long time.  This disc is comprised of Nothing but
original scans, scans that have not appeared on any CD-ROM disc
previously published, nor have these scans been on any BBS anywhere.
The images are beautiful nude women, with no men, no action shots,
and no strange pictures.  Just "Playboy" style images.

Points for SysOps:

The disc is fully BBS ready, and comes complete with file listings for
PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat, and QBBS.  In addition, a database of the
file listings is provided, in case you want to generate some other
form of file listing.  Each file sub-directory has 100 or less images
or programs in it, making it one of the easier ones to browse through.

There are "catalog" images available for downloading, that allow your
callers to view, pick and choose the images that they wish to download
BEFORE they download, saving them (and you!) time.

There is a file section on the disc that has 99 GIF images viewing and
editing utilities on it.  No longer will you have to search in vain
trying to find where to direct your callers to go to get some viewers.

All images are originals, meaning that you will not find something on
this disc that you have already in your files base.

No BBS ads, No Backgrounds, No "mirrored Images".  When your callers
download from this, they are getting "more babe for the byte!"
You won't be advertising for other BBS systems when you offer this
disc.

Points for Individual Users:

This disc has a menu interface that has to be seen to be believed!
The hard drive installation takes less than 10 seconds, and it only
takes up 295 bytes (yes, bytes!) on the hard drive.  The user
interface allows you to look at 40 "thumbnail" images at a time,
pick the ones that you wish to see and "click" on them with your
mouse to pull up the full sized images.  I've never seen a simpler
or cleaner interface on any CD-ROM anywhere!  If you do not have a
mouse, then instructions on how to operate the interface without one
is provided on the back.

All images are original.  You will not find these images on any other
CD-ROM or BBS files base (unless they copied them from this disc!)
<smile!>

The user interface program will self-configure to your VGA card, without
any intervention from you.

Negative Points:

The User Interface program requires a SET TEMP statement to work.
Without a SET TEMP statement in DOS, then the user interface program,
upon running, will attempt to set up a TEMP directory on the CD-ROM
disc.  Needless to say, this doesn't work too well!  <smile!>  If you
already have Windows v3.x installed, then you probably already have a
Set Temp installed.  However, if you do not have Set Temp in your
AUTOEXEC.BAT, then you can correct the problem simply by either
putting the following statement in your AUTOEXEC.BAT or simply typing
it at the command line:

     SET TEMP=C:\

This will correct that problem.

You need at least a 512k Video card for the best performance.  However,
a one megabyte video card will work the best.

Overall Impression:

This is one of the best adult discs that I've seen, period.  The user
interface makes it excellent for the end user, the BBS support makes it
simply great for BBS usage, and the quality of the files themselves
make it worthwhile for any application.  A must have!

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2149
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Pioneer 6 disc changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG>        I want to start a bbs. I have been looking at both
MG> the Pioneer DRM-600A & DRM-604X changer. As i have read
MG> the 604X is twice as fast as the 604X. The difference is
MG> the 604X is 300ms with 612kb transfer rate compared to the
MG> 600A's 153kb transfer rate.
MG>        Ok, Its twice as fast. The modem only transfers at 14.4k
MG> and soon to be 28.8k. That is still faster than 28.8k
MG>        And it also says you can either use a 8 bit or 16 bit
MG> controller for either drive. If someone could enlighten me
MG> on a few things such as. Software compatability, Drivers.

Michael, as someone that runs three of the Pioneer DRM-600a's on their
BBS, I can fill you in on a few details... (smile!)

The Pioneer DRM-600a is perfectly suited for BBS file server use.  The
DRM-604x will work, as well, but it's significantly higher price is
outrageous when you look at what you are getting for the additional
money.  For BBS file server work, the interface software is more
critical than the drive speed anyday.

In order to properly use a multichanger unit on a multiline BBS, you
need software that is capable of:

    [1] Reading the files lists from Magnetic Storage, not Optical
    [2] When the user goes to download, the software should
        "Buffer" the download to magnetic.
    [3] Ideally, a "flag" should be set that informs other nodes
        that the "Drive is Busy, Please Wait".

I know that SFRom for Spitfire and EZRom for any DOOR.SYS BBS will do
all of those things.  Other software packages will do that, as well.
Once you have that in your software, the speed of the drive is
illrelevant.

If you wish, you can call me at 913-266-5851, and I can discuss the
matter further with you.

                                            Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2150
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Cd-rom direct                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH> initial order without a useable drive.  If anyone from CD-ROM DIRECT
CH> monitors this echo, and if you think that you're going to ruin my
CH> credit by making me refuse a COD package you can go STRAIGHT TO
CH> HELL.  I am calling your Better Business Bureau first thing on

Charles, your credit record cannot be affected by refusing a COD order.
As someone who has worked in the credit industry for over 10 years, I
know that one for a fact!  :)

However, it's obvious that you are being treated shoddily.  Nuke 'em
Dano!  :)

                                            Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2151
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>  There are NO duplicate file names on the CD, nor exact duplicate
BJ>  GIF images that could be revealed by an electronic audit of names,
BJ>  file sizes, and checksums.  Checked against a 47,000+ GIF file
BJ>  unique name data base, there were 833 "hits" indicating that, on a
BJ>  file name basis, about 41% of the files are potentially duplicated
BJ>  on other adult CDs.  The "hit" distribution was as follows:

Bob, have you checked out a title called Pixure Rom III?  For a real
enlightening experience, grab a copy of that disc, and cross check it
for duplicates versus the Porkware I title.

                                            Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2152
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Bob, as someone that has reviewed the Digital Dreams product myself, I
thought that I would toss in my two cents here, as well... <smile!>

BJ>   The included copy of GIFReed is too crippled IMHO, to permit any
BJ>   real "try before buy" evaluation, not to mention the highly
BJ>   annoying beeps, messages, warnings, etc. that go along with the
BJ>   crippled functionality.  More to the point, as implemented by DD's

Bob, Although it can be annoying to be "beeped at" in any way, shape or
form, I don't think that three screens, only shown on bootup, are any
cause for alarm.  Once you pass through the initial three screens, there
is no more nagware, period.

BJ>   crippled functionality.  More to the point, as implemented by DD's
BJ>   authors, about half of each catalog image is occupied by a large,
BJ>   rather garish title that adds NO VALUE to the catalog image.  The

That is a function of GifREED, not the authors choice.  I've worked with
GifREED, and personally prefer it over anything else I've tried.  When
you make a catalog file, you get to specify only three things... the
resolution of the resultant file, the number of image rows that can be
placed in there, and if there is a title screen or not.  You know as
well as I do that, if there were no instructions on the thumbnail
portion, that a lot of people wouldn't realize to "click on the small
image."  Not everyone uses GDS or GifREED... <smile!>  So some
instruction were, IMHO, in order.  Because of the limitations of the
catalog process, there can be only one size of header file, nomatter
what size you try to make it.

BJ>   screen is about 10.8" wide (horizontally, not diagonally).  At
BJ>   1024x768 resolution, that makes about 95 pixels per usable inch.
BJ>   Half of a 1024x768 screen spread wall-to-wall between 36 images
BJ>   gives about 11,000 pixels, about 105 pixels square, per image.
BJ>   Compare that to the 95 pixels per inch from above, add in some
BJ>   room for titles, space between images, and gentle reader you'll
BJ>   see that the DD catalogs images must be and are truly TINY.  Look

BTW, according to GifREED, those catalog images are in 640x480.  They
could have been made for 1024x768 or 800x600, but they would have been
prohibitively large.  I know, I've made them for my BBS before, and when
you turn them on that large, they can take up 500k or more EACH.  Ouch!

BJ>   have to stare at the catalog images for very long.  Still, why the
BJ>   authors chose to surrender half the screen's real estate to a
BJ>   useless title is beyond me.

Because without that "useless screen," a lot of people would have been
in the dark about what to do.  I have to do tech support on CD-ROM's,
and believe me, there are a lot of people without a clue out there.
Anything that will make life easier on them is a plus.

BJ>   Again, IMHO, GDS offers far more capability, flexibility, and
BJ>   usability.  Sysops and end users alike will find a lot to like in

GDS also costs $5.00 PER DISC PRODUCED, according to one Disc publisher
that I work with.  Can we say ouch?  I don't think that you would want
to give up that large of a slice of your work to a shareware author, if
you were producing a title.

Bob, it's obvious that you love GDS, and that's fine.. but counting
against a disc because it's not using it is hardly fair.  I don't see
any other Adult Disc using it (if there is one, I've not seen it yet.)
And the Porkware I disc that you reviewed next certainly doesn't even
have the slickness of the GifREED interface.  It only has an older
version of VPIC available, and that doesn't measure up to GifREED for
ease of use and functionality.

More on the next one... <smile!>

                                                Dave Clark

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2153
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  3:47p
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
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MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*

MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
  >  any Chestnut purchase!

I'll take this, where do I send a check!

     -=> Dave <=-     Fri  07-16-1993


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2154
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/18/93  1:57a
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        JOe asks this question..

> > hi joe.
-> > I have sevaral intenal mitsumi's and found that they are very relia
-> > For the price tag of $175.00 complete, you can't beat it....
->
-> Thanks... do you use them for a BBS or for personal use?
-> I need a good BBS CD Rom.
->
-> Joe Stevens

  sure do joe...  have them on my bbs. they all work just fine....
could be a little faster but I could not afford the faster ones, so they
do just fine for me.....I havent had any problems with the drives at
all, in fact ii just purchased 2 more last month...
bubba
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93 10:58a
Subj: Cdk = cd-rom kits/bundles               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Mastercard &
Visa accepted. Posted on 07/17/93, @ 10:46.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 3024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM3024 & PAS-16 sound card     557.00
 DM3024BB   CDK - Texel DM3024 int. bus. bundle        665.00
 DM3024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 int. M/M bundle         831.00
 DM3024EB   CDK - Texel DM3024 internal ed. bundle     593.00
 DM3024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 internal home bundle    558.00
 5024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM5024 & PAS-16 sound card     677.00
 5024T348   CDK - Texel DM5024 & T-348 par. SCSI       608.00
 5024T130   CDK - Texel DM5024 Cd-ROM & T-130 SCSI     536.00
 DM5024BB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. bus. bundle        747.00
 DM5024EB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. ed. bundle         712.00
 DM5024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. home bundle        653.00
 DM5024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. M/M bundle         938.00
 DM3024T130 CDK - Texel int. DM3024 & T130 SCSI        461.00

Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call: 7-10 AM &
9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2156
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/18/93 12:07a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2157
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/18/93 12:21a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2158
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/18/93  7:41p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jul 10 21:35>, Ryan Denke of 1:303/5.104 writes:

 RD> In a message of <07 Jul 93  11:31:13>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4)
 RD> writes:
 >I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you
 >have anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic
 >CD, leave me a message and maybe we can make a deal!
 RD> I will offer $40 shipped, or Nix Pix Hot Pix 3 (adult) and $10.


Ryan,
I am not really looking for a adult CD, but, I would ship it to you for $40.00.
If OK with you Call me at 1-504-893-7279 or post here.
Thanks,

Michael Sells
309 East Saint Mary Drive
Covington, LA. 70433

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From: VICKI FLETCHER                         Number: 2159
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93 10:21a
Subj: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dear Mike,
  Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
I sure would like a copy if you do.....
                Vicki Fletcher
                513 21st Avenue Southeast
                Puyallup, Washington  98372
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2160
  To: TECHNICAL BRIEF                          Date: 07/18/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> JL>discs from him when a customer needed something that my suppliers
> didn't
> JL>carry. He was polite and delivery was prompt.
> This is the direct number to the manufacturer of all the CD'S you will
> ever
> need. CD's for like $15 bucks and $20 bucks.
> LASER RESOURCES
FYI they are not manufacturer but distributor. TTYL

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2161
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  3:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
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Hiya, Mike!
On Jul 15, Mike Shannon spake thusly to All:


 MS> All callers may download our catalog on the first call, and
 MS> to avoid the new user questionnaire, log on as:  First name:
 MS> CD                                    Last name:   ROM
 MS>                                     Password:    USER

 MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main
 MS> menu and download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest
 MS> prices, newest titles, and CD descriptions.

how about making this freqable, mike?  :)  you know how us sysops hate to take
our bbses down.


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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2162
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 07/18/93  3:42a
Subj: Adaptec 1742b and CD Players            Refer: NONE
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Hiya, Russell!
On Jul 16, Russell Naber spake thusly to All:

 RN> I run a BBS and would like to option to initially install
 RN> one CD ROM drive, but have the option to add more.  I want
 RN> the best transfer speed for 14,400 baud connects without
 RN> slowdowns.  I want it to work smoothly with the adaptec
 RN> 1742b controller SCSI card, either internal or external to
 RN> it.  Seamless integration with Maximus files.bbs files.

 RN> Has anybody had experience with this controller with a
 RN> certain brand  of CD ROM player in multiple?

i have two computers running os/2 with an adaptec 1542c on one and a 1542b on
the other.  the b is running a toshiba 3201 cd rom drive on my bbs.  its a
refurb drive i just bought from a fella in alabama who sells them on the
CDROM_SALE echo.  its great - works nice and fast and quite reliable. your bbs
software should copy the files to your harddrive before they are dl'ed, making
high speed xfers painless.

on my other machine i have the 1542c and a toshiba 3401 - my first cd rom
drive.  lightning fast, but over twice the cost of the 3201. not something i
wanted to repeat for the bbs.  both my cd drives are internal, but that was
more for space considerations than anything else. i have room for another in
the bbs machine, wont need another in the "play" machine.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 12:09p
Subj: LOW LOW CDROM PRICES!                   Refer: NONE
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     ShareWare (** BBS Ready)             Miscellaneous (cont.)

AB20 Amiga CD-Rom.............14.95 Clip Art Galore..........**...28.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw..24.95 Clip Art Goliath..............13.50
Aminet Amiga............**....14.95 Clip Art Heaven...............27.95
C Users Group Library.........29.50 Coates Art Review.............44.95
California Collection...**....16.95 College Handbook (1992).......18.95
CD Powerbox.............**....19.95 Color Magic Clip Art..........28.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**....49.95 Colossal Cookbook.............13.50
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware.....14.95 Complete Bookshop.............13.50
Giga Games..............**....28.95 Composer Quest................36.95
Gigabyte Gold...........**....22.50 Compton's Interactive Encylop.99.95
Ham Radio (Shareware).........13.50 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....68.95
Libris Britannica.......**....52.95 Conan.........................33.95
Lion Share..............**....24.95 Consumer Information Disc.....38.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**....28.95 Crossword Cracker.............23.95
Megarom 1...............**....19.95 Crossword Cracker.............24.45
Megarom 2...............**....23 95 DAC Accounting Bonus Pk v4.4.154.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**....38.95 DAC Accounting for DOS v4.4...99.95
NightOwl 5.0............**....15.95 DAC Instant Accountng-DOS/WIN.39.95
Nightowl 6.0............**....23.95 DAC Instant Rolodex for WIN3..39.95
Nightowl 7.0............**....23.95 DAC Payroll for DOS v4.4......99.95
Nightowl 8.0............**....26.95 DAC Rolodex Live v2.0.........39.95
Nightowl 8.0/9.0........**....55.95 Danger Hot Stuff 1............18.95
Nightowl 9.0............**....29.00 Danger Hot Stuff 2............24.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications....22.95 DeathStar Arcade Battles......13.50
Original Shareware 1992.**....16.95 Deep Voyage...................34.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes)........14.95 Desert Storm..................34.95
PC Sig H & B Collection.......29.95 Desktop Bookshop..............27.95
PC Sig #10..............**....22.95 Dictionaries & Languages......13.50
PC Sig #11..............**....24.95 Dictionary of Living World....99.95
PC Sig #12..............**....24.95 Dinosaur Adventure MPC........33.95
PC Sig #9...............**....17.95 Dinosaurs MPC.................54.95
Phoenix v3.0............**....14.95 Doctors Book of Home Remedies.36.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**....27.95 Dune..........................46.95
Powerpak Gold...........**....22.95 Education Master or Business..19.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**....27.95 Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)...36.95
SDN 1...................**....19.95 Encyclopedia of Clip Art......26.95
Shrw Extravaganza(4 cds)**....42.95 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.50
Shareware 1993..........**....19.95 European Monarchs.............48.95
ShareWare Overload............13.50 Executive Factomatic..........36.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**....20.95 Family Doctor.................28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**....23.95 Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2..27.95
Shareware Tiger.........**....24.95 Fonts #1......................27.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**....14.95 Full Bloom....................36.95
So Much Shareware #1....**....19.95 Future Wars...................48.95
SO Much Shareware #2....**....28.95 Game Arena....................13.95
Software Vault #1.......**....22.95 GameMaster (Over 500 Games)...19.45
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**....23.95 Games 1993................**..24.50
Sound Sensations..............13.50 Gifs Galore...................16.45
Source Code (Unix/Dos)........28.95 Global Explorer (Delorme).....93.50
Technotools (Programmers).....13.50 Golden Immortal...............24.95
Top 2000 Shareware............23.50 Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers.47.95
Up All Night............**....19.95 Great Cities of World 1 or 2..24.95
Winbox (CD).............**....27.45 Great Wonders of the World....42.95
Window Master.................19.45 Greatest Books Collection.....44.95
Windoware.....................13.50 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)..34.95
Windows 1993............**....27.45 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC....47.95
Windows - CICA..........**....14.95 Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr..229.95
X11R5/GNU CDRom...............24.95 Guiness Disc of Records (92)..26.95
                                    Guy Spy.......................43.95
          Miscellaneous             Hacker Chronicles.............26.50
                                    Hospitality Index.............39.95
1001 Utilities................13.95 House of Games................25.95
20th Century Almanac..........59.95 Inter. Business/Economc Atlas.24.45
7th Guest.....................52.95 Island Designs................36.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...28.95 Jazz, Multimedia History......54.95
Aesops Fables.................29.95 Jets & Props..................31.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.95 Jokes & Pranks................13.95
Amanda Stories................44.95 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.45
Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2.27.95 Just Grandma & Me.............41.95
Anecdotes.....................26.95 Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm.54.95
Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)...26.95 Key Clipmaster Pro............32.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......28.95 Key Fonts Pro.................32.95
Audobon Mammals or Birds......25.95 Key Home Designer.............32.95
Barney Bear Goes to School....21.95 Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv......36.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space.....21.95 King James Bible..............27.95
Barron's Book Notes...........39.95 Kings Quest 5.................23.95
BattleChess Enhanced..........31.95 Languages of the World........47.95
BattleChess MPC...............29.95 Learning Adventure............13.95
Beauty & the Beast (Win3).....29.95 Legend of Kyrandia............54.95
Bible Library (9 Bibles+).....28.95 Library of the Future 1.......49.95
Bibles & Religion.............13.50 ***********************************
Brittanica Family Choice......32.95 * PCJ - 7/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
Brittanica Select.............32.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Business Assistant............13.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Cameron's Fine Art Catalog....49.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
Carmen San Diego World Delux..27.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
CD Cad v3.7 with manual.......31.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
CD Game Pack 1................18.95 ***********************************
Cd Game Pack 2................26.95    All Lines Operate 24 Hours
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..........26.45   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Christmas Carol...............28.95   Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
Cinnemania....................57.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Classic Collection (4 Pak)....53.95   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2164
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 12:10p
Subj: LOW LOW CDROM PRICES!                   Refer: NONE
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      Miscellaneous (cont.)              Miscellaneous (cont.)

Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook.....37.95 Super Munchers................39.95
Loom..........................24.95 Super/Number Bundle...........39.95
Lord of the Rings.............54.95 Swimwear 1993.............**..28.95
Lovely Ladies.................27.95 Swimwear & More (SVGA)........28.95
MacMillan Dict for Children...32.95 Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale.36.45
Magazine Rack.................22.95 Talking Schoolhouse...........36.45
Manhole.......................35.95 Tempra/Kodak Photo CD Softw...27.50
Mantis........................29.95 The Complete Twain............31.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.95 The Grammy Awards.............36.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...27.95 The Holy Bible................31.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typng v2.49.95 The Pill Book.................36.95
Mayo Clinic...................28.50 Time Almanac 1990.............16.95
Mega Clip Art.................28.50 Time Almanac 1991.............26.95
Mega Movie Guide..............42.95 TimeTable of Art/Entertainmnt.27.95
Microsoft Bookshelf...........57.50 TimeTable of Business/Politic.27.95
Midi Music Shop...............29.95 TimeTable of History/Science..24.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose.........23.95 Too Many TypeFonts (Laser)....13.50
Monarch Notes.................53.95 ToolWorks Reference Library...26.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)....24.95 Total Baseball Encyclopedia...26.95
Mother Earth..................27.95 Travel in Europe..............28.95
Mother of All Clipart (23000).23.95 True Crime Stories............36.95
My Advanced Label Designer....42.95 Trump Castle-5 casino games...28.95
My Backup.....................19.95 Ultima I - VI.................35.95
My Label Designer Bundle......42.95 Ultima Underworld 1 & 2.......59.95
National MM Parks Guide.......26.95 USA Today.....................36.95
Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals...26.50 USA Wars-Civil War............36.95
Nautilus Subscription Kit.....28.95 USA Wars-Korea................44.95
North American Fax Book.......46.95 USA Wars-Vietnam..............44.95
North American Indians........46.95 USA Wars-World War II.........44.95
Number Munchers...............28.95 U.S. Atlas MPC................26.95
Officers Bookcase.............46.95 U.S. Atlas / Automap..........28.95
Oregon Trail Dlx Vga..........35.95 U.S. Civics...................44.95
Oregon Trail..................39.95 U.S. History..................27.95
Our House (Family Circus).....42.95 U.S. Presidents...............35.95
Our Solar System(Photos,Data).13.50 U.S./World Atlas..............25.95
PC Gameroom...................27.95 VGA Spectrum #1...............14.95
PC Globe 5.0..................49.95 VGA Spectrum #2...............24.95
PC Sig Games..................23.95 Visions of Saturn.............24.95
Pentaminoes...................34.95 Wild Places or World View.....23.95
Peter Rabbit..................24.95 Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......57.95
Peter & the Wolf (Win3).......26.45 Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld...59.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs.....26.95 Wing Commander/Secret Missn...34.50
Photos to Remember............34.95 Wing Commander/Ultima 6.......24.95
Pinacotheca MPC...............24.95 Wizard........................19.95
Pixel Garden..................44.95 Women of Venus (Swimsuits)....27.95
Plant Doctor..................37.95 Word Munchers.................28.95
Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span..49.95 World Atlas MPC...............26.95
Precision Mapping.............83.95 World Atlas...................25.95
Prophone Business 1993........37.95 World Fact Book (CIA).........23.95
Prophone (3 CD Set)...........49.95 World of Flight or Trains.....33.95
Prophone (7 CD set)..........122.95 World Tour (CIA)..............23.95
Publique or Fresh Arte........35.95 World Traveler................13.50
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)....24.95 Wrath of the Demon............28.50
Publishers Dream Disc.........37.95
Publishers Paradise...........32.95   Drives/Sound/Software/Speakers
Putt Putt Joins Parade........49.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC)......29.50 CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)..4.95
QRZ Ham Radio.................14.95 Chinon 435 Int SCSI + CDs...349.95
Readers Library (2000 works)..28.95 Gravis Ultrasound 16bit.....139.95
Reference Library.............27.45 Koss Headphones..............14.95
Return to the Moon............36.95 Koss Hard Drivers Speakers...32.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.95 Koss Amplfd Spkrs w/Eqlizer..54.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic....36.95 Labtec Amplified Mini Spkrs..29.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook...44.95 Labtec Amplifd Stereo Spkrs..44.95
Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**..27.95 Mitsumi 350ms w/Int. Kit....195.00
Seals of US Gov't.............44.95 Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00
Secret Island Dr. Quandry.....39.95 Pioneer 600A with Kit.......849.00
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe...25.95 Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00
Secrets-Exec Success Stories..36.95 Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...24.95 Sysdos-Parallel port drive..299.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...54.95 Texel DM3024 Int SCSI.......389.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...54.95 Toshiba 3401 Int SCSI.......455.00
Sherlock or Shakespeare.......16.95 Windows 3.1 (3-1/2" Floppy)..39.95
Snap Dragon...................39.95 Windows 3.1 (5-1/4" Floppy)..37.95
Snapdragon....................39.95 Znix Cordless Mouse/Win 3.1..59.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs).**..27.95 Znix Serial Super Mouse......24.95
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports.42.95
Sound Effects Library.........24.95 ***********************************
Sound Works (Software)........18.95 * PCJ - 7/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
SoundWav......................28.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Space Adventure...............32.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Space Quest IV................24.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest.......34.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Spirit of Excalibur...........38.45 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
Sporting News-Pro Football....36.95 ***********************************
Sports Best on CDRom..........27.95
Star Child....................39.95    All Lines Operate 24 Hours
Stellar 7.....................24.95   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Storybook Weaver..............39.95   Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
StoryTime 1 or 2..............24.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Street Atlas USA (Windows)....86.50   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2165
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/18/93 12:14p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
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 DR> being hosted in my place of business.  They're here
 DR> to get a fair deal on quality discs... not sit
 DR> around groping the one-eyed trouser trout (which
 DR> must be what goes on at your store, now that your
 DR> wife threw your ass out).  ;-)

Amen brother....

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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 2166
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 12:36p
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
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MS> JB>Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
MS> JB>I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.
MS>
MS> JD,
MS>
MS> We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout
MS> if you want one.

 Durn. Should have waited a bit longer. Could have saved over $ 7.00
by ordering from you. Bet I will ask you next time.

---
 X KWQ/2 1.2a X First, you put the lawyers up against a wall. . .

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 2167
  To: TONY MASSEY                              Date: 07/18/93  4:12p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
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    Sorry. I already have Sherlock Holmes I and II, and i have a CD of sound
samples also. I was really trying to sell the drive itself. The 5 titles i
mentioned came with the drive.

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 2168
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 07/18/93  4:13p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
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    Well, i am trying to sell the drive itself. Those 5 titles i mentioned came
with the drive.

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2169
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 11:20a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


  MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
  MS> download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest
  MS> titles, and CD descriptions.


Is this file an ASCI file or is it an EXE file?.... I would like to be able to
read via MAC environment
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2170
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:46a
Subj: Oxford Eng. Dictionary                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for some pricing information on the Oxford English Dictionary in
CD ROM PC and MAC format.  Would any of you Distributors care to quote what you
would sell this item for?  Thanks
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  2:34p
Subj: C/C++ CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: BRIAN KECK                             Number: 2172
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/18/93  1:21a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ismail.....wanted to thank you for the fast service. Ordered my nightowl
on Tuesday and got it in 2 days, not bad from WA to FL...

Thanks again...and thanks for the GREAT prices, it helps alot with
keeping my costs down for my BBS...
Will be ordering again...

Brian


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2173
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/16/93  4:10p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Nex               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>CM>> When are we gonna see an HFS version of BB's? These ISO vers just
LN>CM>> dont cut it!

LN>Not to be ignorant--But is this HFS for the Mac or Amiga--We ask the pressig
LN>house for a more universal format and they are working on this as we speak s
LN>that 1 disc can serve many a platform.

HFS is Mac format. Any disk cut in ISO9660 is readable on any Mac
running a standard Mac driver. Macs have their own driver, much like
MSCDEX. Any Mac cdrom, from Apple CD-300's to Nec 74-84's have a driver
included with them. In addition, there are generic ISO readers on AOL.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2174
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/17/93  7:22a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 07/21/93  6:51a                       Private: No

TH>-> the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating
TH>-> echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get r
TH>-> by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about
TH>-> Woodward ripping me off.

Tim,
I'm not going to respond to Benge. I've already added more heat to this
than I should. Just so that we understand, Benge has his original disk
back, which I returned by Fedex. I haven't ripped him off, lied to him,
or defrauded him. I refused to go through with the swap after his
childish outburst. He may believe anything he wants.
My next action will be to see relief under Policy Four, which guarantees
Fido members protection from harassment. I will file a formal compliant
with my RC.

TH>-> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?
TH>p.s.  Look up the word "libel".

Thanks for pointing it out to him. That's my next step.

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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2175
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/17/93 10:01a
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscri               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Best I can do is $34 + $4 shipping. I will take checks, but won't
-> ship until it clears. COD requires $4.50 additional. Let me know.
->
-> Chris

I went ahead and ordered the one for $29.  Thank you for your reply tho.

J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2176
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 07/17/93 10:02a
Subj: Night Owls 9.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Only if you live next door ;)

J.P.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2177
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 11:46a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I tried to get one of the dealer's to send me a copy of the Pixure ROM  CDs for
evaluation (a la Pork-Ware I and Digital Dreams) but no one bit  on my offer. I
won't buy image CDs anymore unless either (a) I have full  return priviledges
after a reasonable "assessment period" (say two weeks  ARO) or (b) I have
reasonable expectations that it is truly "new". With  repsect to (b), only one
or two producers currently have my trust in that  regard.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2178
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 11:54a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You make some good points, Dave, including the cost of using GDS that I  wasn't
aware of (not being a CD producer). As for GIFReed itself, I still  don't like
it. It wasn't necessary to use almost 1/2 screen for  redundant titles or
instructions. Increasing the resolution would help  much for images less than
1" square and, as you point out, use of a lot  of space for little/no vlaue
add. Point-and-click is cool, sure, but  without giving the creator of the
catalogs any more flexibility that  GIFReed offers (fixed title sizes, fixed
"thumbnail" sizes), it's  usability for creator and end user alike is
diminished IMHO. Yes, I  really like GDS - no crippling or nagging even in the
unregistered  versions, although there is some additional functionality
avaliable in a  higher priced version.  Each to his own.....<EOT>
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 2179
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  7:23a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is your catalog available by FREQ?


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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2180
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/19/93  1:15p
Subj: TERRY WOODWARD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>TH> moderator


BJ>Boy, I'm glad you've got this job and not me! Hang in there....

I think it is funny.  I've had the same problems for over 8 years.  I
still think it is funny, for Tim to undergo these stages.

BOB
:-)

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 2181
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/17/93  5:15p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>In a msg on <Jul 13 06:30>, Bob Kelly of 1:275/16 writes:

MS>MS>MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other
MS>CD's.
MS>Lets see.... I paid $55.00 for it. 1/2 price would be $27.50
MS>add in the shipping to VA. and we are looking at $31.00
MS>delivered.

Michael, you have a deal! Give me an address to send my check, and it will be
on its way! Thanks...

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:32p
Subj: Windows                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*****************************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *****************************
*****************************************************************************

CD PowerBox v1.0 - An excellent collection of shareware designed with the
                 BBS SysOp in mind.  Has both a DOS user interface as well
                 as a Windows GUI.  Released 01/93.  $19.

CD WinBox v1.0 - This is THE BEST Windows shareware disc yet!  Has a true
                 Windows GUI for easy file viewing and manipulation.  Just
                 released (06/93)!  $19.

SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIDONET CUSTOMERS:

        Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention that you saw the ad in
        FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
[phone] (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
[phone] (Voice)     * catalog has been updated with new titles  *
[phone] (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93  4:30p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following software, etc for sale. Closet cleaning time... I
wanna get RID of this stuff! Prices include postage/shipping within the
normal US.

Ultima VII - The Black Gate
  Upgraded to new version for bug fix. 3.5" disks.  $28
Ultima VII clue book - Key to the Black Gate.  $8
Ultima Underworld clue book - Mysteries of the Abyss.  $7
Ultima VI - The False Prophet.  5.25" disks.  $23
Energizer Bunny for Windows
  Screen saver, wallpaper, guest appearances. 3.5" disk.  $7
Adobe Type Manager for Windows
  Came bundled with WordPerfect for Windows. Docs & 3.5" disk,no pkg.$7
IMSI VirusCure v2.41
  Came bundled with Alpha 4. Docs & 5.25" disk, no pkg.  $7
Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel case &
docs,
  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive reqd.  $28
Grammatik 5 for Windows
  Both 5.25" and 3.5" disks.  $28

Unless otherwise specified, software comes in original package with all
manuals, maps, etc.   If interested, leave msg here, or call
913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8-4 Central, or leave voice mail).

Might consider trade if you have something nifty on CD ROM that I want.
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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 2184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93 12:00a
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone please give me some prices on CD caddies. Most of the prices
up here north of the 49th are really quite outrageous.

thanks

ttyl /usr/dan
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2185
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 12:12p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dave, I have looked at a *lot* of images on other adult CDs and while
you are correct that only a small percentage of them are really
full-screen, DD's images go to the extreme in the opposite direction:
too many of them are just too small, as I said, "...by my standards".
BTW: I agree with your implied definition of "full screen". That is,
"all image" and not wide colored borders, big BBS logos, etc.

I don't understand your refernce to 12 cents/minute for downloading
costs, but that's not the point. I buy image CDs so I won't have to d/l
them from a BBS.

As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of
the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what
follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with
my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came
from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness
is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say
DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too.

Unsharp images wasn't the only thing I didn't like about Volcano, but
again, if others are happy with it, that's fine by me.

Yes, you're right. After the "numerical" part of my review, I did
progress into more subjective areas. I said so in my earlier post when I
disclosed the procedure that I was going to use and said it again in the
review itself, as I recall. As to DD being all original material, I
can't attest beyond what I said in my review. At least one person on
this echo, Terry Woodward I think, voiced the opinion that it wasn't all
original. You'll have to take the matter up with him if you need/want
further discussion.

As far as "easier to use interfaces", I'm in partial agreement with you.
I think the idea of point-and-click from a catalog is really neat. It
eliminates worrying about directories, trying to remember file names,
etc. As you know, I don't particularly like GIFReed's version of it. As
to alternatives to it and GDS, I understand that Rel 3 of BB will have a
similar interface via yet a third product (forgot the name just now).
Lee Noga has promised me a copy for eval. and you can believe that it'll
get the same working over that GIFReed got. Stay tuned...

I agree that we'va all had enough of the "knock-off" (no pun intended)
"me-too" adult CDs. I applaud DD's producers for recognizing that and
trying (Terry Woodward's remarks notwithstanding). IMHO, they didn't
make it. As to being legal, I agree that's a sysop's concern. Not being
a sysop (as I stated), I didn't consider that aspect in my review. I
would point out that many adult CDs have as many if not more images than
DD that are unquestionably "legal" and it would seem (again, to a
non-sysop type) that a discrete editing of the infamous FILES.BBS file
could make any "problem" files unreachable - so I don't think this is a
selling point for DD.

I'm lost as to your reference to "41% duplication rate" and whether or
not I find that acceptable. First, no I wouldn't and hence the comment I
made in another post about being very wary about so-called "new"
offerings. Secondly, if you're referring to Pork-Ware I, I think I said
in my review of it that it probably didn't offer the owners of more than
one other adult CD much in the way of newness.

Dave if your users are happy with DD, I'm glad for you and them both. I
didn't like the disk and said so....exactly once (well, now twice). I
haven't tried to dissuade others from offering it, touting it, or buying
it, nor will I. As other CDs are offered for my review, they will get
the same review treatment, good or bad. Readers of those reviews, like
you, are welcome to their own opinions.

As both you and I know, this "discussion" isn't exactly on topic so this
is <EOT> from my end.
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2186
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/19/93  1:15a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Forwarded from "CDROM_SALE"
 * Originally by Michael Benge
 * Originally to Mike Shannon
 * Originally dated 18 Jul 1993, 23:03

MB> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

 MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual
 MS> monetary damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate
 MS> damage assessment for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?
 MS> I think we'd all like to know if your prolonged character
 MS> assassination is actually warranted in relation to your
 MS> out-of-pocket expenses.

Those "damages", as you call them, would amount to approx. $20-$25.  We were to
each ccover our own shipping, approx $2.90, which I did, so say no more that
$27.50 max., $22.90 min.
This has not been a "prolonged character assasination", as you say.  It is
simply my right to try and prevent myself or anyone else from being on the
receiving end of a bad deal.  BTW, I thought you did'nt want to be involved.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2187
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  1:13a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/21/93  6:55a                       Private: No

 -> the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating
 -> echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get r
 -> by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about
 -> Woodward ripping me off.
 TH> That rule is news to me...

I have always observed postings from disgruntled participants pass thru the
echo.  I have never seen a moderator, including this conference, accuse anyone
of "whining" because of it.  If you permit it, it may as well be part of the
official rules.  If not, a clarification from the source would probably be in
order. -> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off? TH>
p.s. Look up the word "libel".

I am well aware of the definition.  I believe I would have no problems proving
my statements as absolutely true, and not "libel", as you request.  If Terry
Woodward feels he has been wronged, instead of the other way around, he has my
address if he feels the need to attempt to sue me.  I have no fear of that, as
he was in the wrong.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2188
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/19/93  2:44p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

Unfortunately, for you apparently, your opinion of the matter will not have my
feed cut.  Since I have not broken the rues of the echo, your displeasure with
my postings is irrelevant when not directed directly to the moderator, who
would then in turn determine if my postings were in violation of the echo
rules.  If you have a valid complaint, Tim Helton may be reached via netmail at
1:133/515.

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2189
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  4:55a
Subj: RE:adult Cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> We have all three in stock.  Prices:   Storm 1 $25, Storm 2 $28,
> Storm 3 $29.  Let me know if you're interested.  We can ship same day.

Yes I am interested in them.  Could you basically tell me the difference
between the three sets and in your opionion which one do you think is
best?  I do not have a credit card, so when I decide which one I want I
will have to mail you a money order.

                                        Len

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2190
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93 11:22p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY JULY 27 ***
*** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours) 615-339-0235 ***

Wing Commander/Ultima 6 (Discontinued-get it while you can)........23.95
American Business Phone Book..17.95 Software Vault #2 (ALL '93!)...19.95
X11R5-GNU.....................19.95 ** Buy 4 Vivid Titles at 44.95 each
Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........34.95 and receive your choice of 1 Free:
DR. DOS v6.0 (floppy).........24.95 Moving Fantasies, Visual Fantasies,
Hobbes OS/2...................14.95 Adult Reference Library, Physical
Source Code...................19.95 Therapy, or Hot Pix v4.0.

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2191
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/19/93  1:11a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are f
-> commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
-> scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards, l
-> Garlique and Nitelog. It isn't a bad disk but I don't think it would
-> hold up in court.

 Thanks for the info Terry, Sometimes I have to go by the Label, Try to
keep up with all of the info from the echo but miss some...

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2192
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 07/19/93  1:13a
Subj: CD-WORLD 4                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I would like to place an order w/ you for 2 caddies at $4 each.
-> Is the above address correct? And check paybale to CD-WORLD?

 Hi Richard,
  All info is correct Check will take 10 days to process, Money order
sent same day as recieved!!

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2193
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/16/93 11:47p
Subj: Cdt = cd's, travel                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was able to read your listing of CD-ROM titles well, but the seven messages
it took was a little much.  You might consider a two column format to condense.
 It would be  easier to handle.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2194
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93 11:59a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You do not offer the lowest price on Night Owl 9 as your ad states.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2195
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/18/93  9:59p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to David Mcspadden <07-16-93 08:20> Terry Woodward wrote:

TW>> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are
TW>> from
TW>> commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
TW>> scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards,
TW>> like
TW>> Garlique and Nitelog.

Heard PC PIX 1 and 3 got nailed by Playboy couple of weeks ago and they wanted
$1500.00 a scan--They decided not to sue the publisher but instead is going
after the BBS's --Most the scans came from the above BBS's you mentioned--Well
over a 1,000 scans on those discs's by those boards--
Hope DD didn't come from the same mags--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: MIKE GUIDRY                            Number: 2196
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/19/93 10:56p
Subj: Atari CD software                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (17 Jul 93) Benjamin Keen wrote to All...

 BK> Hi!
 BK>      My boss is an *Atari* dealer (the things I do for money ;->), and
 BK> one
 BK> of the things he's thrown at me is to find a way to hook a SCSI CD up
 BK> to
 BK> an Atari. We have a DMA/SCSI converter, but I need to know if anyone
 BK> knows
 BK> of an Atari CD-ROM driver or if any dealers have Atari-compatible
 BK> CD-ROM
 BK> drives/drivers.  Another thing is a searching program for CDs. I
 BK> understand the High Sierra or ISO 9660 disks usually include some sort
 BK> of

There is a fidonet Atari ST echo. You ought to find a board carrying it and
post a message there.


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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2197
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/20/93  9:41a
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Haven't seen your name around in a while....
gimme a call at 405-672-1708.
BOB
:-)

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2198
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93 12:05p
Subj: get a life!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BT> yes my spelling and grammer are all wrong..........who cares?


Well, I think *YOU* should care, Bubba. There's an old saying:
"Perception is reality." which, loosely translated, means that folks
will react to situations as they perceive the situations to be, WHETHER
OR NOT such perceptions are factual. In the case of language, poor
skills are seen (perceived) by most to reflect ignorance.  This is
perhaps most easily seen in the opposite case where a superior command
of language is often mistakenly taken to reflect intelligence or
learning. One's about as bad as the other.

It may not be your fault that your language skills are as they are -
only you can fully understand that. However, if you have the means and
opportunity to better them (or any other skill for that matter) and
don't, then that *IS* your fault.

Since this is *WAY* off-topic, this is <EOT> for me.
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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 2199
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  7:15a
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM driv               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Chris Kuefler to John Broderick <=-

 JB>         Hey if they're external I'll make an offer on one.

 CK> sorry, both internals


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        Hey Thanks any way!!

... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: DUNCAN MARKLEY                         Number: 2200
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 07/19/93  9:04p
Subj: MAC CDs FOR $ALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK > folks do support Macs with PC based machines. If you can be patient a lit
DK > longer I'm working on something......


Great! I've been waiting all this time. I can wait longer. Thanks!

Duncan
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2201
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  3:09p
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/22/93  7:29a                       Private: No

TH>-> Besides, I've got three models to shoot in the next week and I don't
TH>-> want to be distracted. <grin>.

TH>I heard that!  If you need any on-site help, I volunteer ;).

The new one is 19, strawberry blonde, and cute as a bug. One of the
other ones developed an attitude problem. So I shot her...
You've probably noticed that I don't deal with attitude problems very
well...
When are you coming down? I'll line up some models and we'll do a couple
of cdroms in a weekend.

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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 2202
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/20/93  9:35p
Subj: Re: For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

SP> HA> greyscale stuff... I wound entertain $25.00 for it and about
SP> HA> $3.00 bucks to ship the thing.... Let me know .... Later <Henry>
SP>
SP> I'll take it. Just let me know where to send a check if that's ok.
SP>
SP>Steve Phillips
        Ok, my address is as follows:
                Henry Arias
                1400 Gandy Boulevard Apartment 1604
                St. Petersburg, Florida 33702

Let me have your address as well and I can start to pack it up and get
ready to beam it out.. Thanks .. Henry

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 2203
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/19/93  2:31a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Mon 19-Jul-1993  2:09a, Bubba Therrien wrote:
BT> -> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
BT> ->

BT> jesse
BT>      call  Groupware, I purchased 2 of them at $25 A PIECE shipped
BT> darn good price ..

BT> GROUPWARE
BT> [phone]

BT> bubba
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Thank's will give em a call.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2204
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/19/93  8:06p
Subj: $15 OFF CREAM OF THE CROP               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 Introducing a special offer to save you $15 off  the  price  of a
  Cream of the Crop shareware cd.   Cream of the Crop is  currently
  selling for $29 (as all of you on my mailing list already  know).
  If you have any non-adult cd shareware or game disc that  you  no
  longer want, just send it to me for a $10 discount... AND include
  a check or money order for $20 to also save  you  the  $5  c.o.d.
  charge.   In a few days you will receive your brand spanking  new
  copy of "Cream of the Crop" ...the highest quality  selection  of
  files available on a single cd.

                            Terry Blount
                            P.O. Box 36
                     Bayou La Batre, Al. 36509

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From: GARY ESTEP                             Number: 2205
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/20/93 10:58p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes There is a cd rom disk called usa map and cost's about $90.00 If you
would like to buy mine for $60.00 leave me a message

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2206
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TK>  >CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG
#12....................28.00
TK>  >CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC
Gameroom...................28.00
TK>MS>Please give me your feedback on this also.

TK> completely readable.  Even when quoted and moved over 3 spaces, it
TK>still fits snugly

Thanks Tim.  8)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2207
  To: GARY SHADE                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GS>Mike your copy was readable. I got your catalog by the way. We'll be
GS>talking.

Thanks for the feedback Gary.

.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2208
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
KR>haven't seen or heard of it...

KR>I know, I know, probably just screwed up my discount (grin).

Kirk,

They went out on July 13.  The reason for the delay was that we sold our
initial batch of Chestnut CD's, and I was waiting for 450 more.  Most of
them finally arrived on the 13th.  Sorry for the delay - you should
hopefully have them by now.  (Your discount is still intact  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2209
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>I would like to order the owl-9 how I do that?...I like to save the cod's
and
MW>don't have a credit card?

Manny,

If you would like to pre-pay by check or money order, you can send it to
our address below.

Thanks,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2210
  To: PHILIP RUSSELL                           Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: cd price list 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PR>I am interested in a number of titles - particularly the educational
PR>ones. What are your airmail fees on 20+ CDs to R.S.A. ?

Two ways to go:  AIR PARCEL POST INSURED (our risk): $45.00
                 AIRMAIL SMALL PACKET (your risk): $40.00

PR>How long does it take for post to get here ?

Last report I had from South Africa was 6 shipping days, but it varies
due to customs.

PR>What method of payment should I use ?

We take international VISA, MASTERCARD, and AMEX + domestic DISCOVER.  Or
you can prepay by bank check or money order in U.S. funds, drawn on a U.S.
bank.

PR>Where in the States are you, in case I have a friend go across soon ?

Yakima, Washington - about 160 miles SE of Seattle.

Feel free to call, fax, or BBS us any time!
voice 509-457-2892 / fax [phone] / BBS 509-457-0206

Bye,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2211
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this a
MS>bad disk or am I doing something wrong?
MS>Please call me at 1-800-428-2835

Michael,

I'm all sold out on those right now, but am expecting more in soon.  I'll
pop one in and check for you when it gets here.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2212
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>under BlueWave but (as you can see) is with MegaMail. Sorry for the
BJ>hassle I put you through, Mike (looking sheepish - shuffling feet (:|

Hassle me again Bob, and I'll give your VISA number to my wife and let
her go nuts on the Home Shopping Channel.   8)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2213
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 1 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>MS>     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY
DC>MS>     PURCHASE!!

DC>Mike, what Shareware disc are you giving away for only $6.00?  It
DC>wouldn't be anything silly like the O'Connor Original Shareware 1992
DC>would it?  (Smile!)  I would hate to think that someone is still pawning
DC>those things off.....

Well, gee . . . umm . . . gosh,  <pause>.  I used to sell the OS92's, but
I can't find any more, so this week it's Phoenix 3.0.  I guess lots of
people were really getting ripped, paying 6 bucks for 6000 shareware
programs on that silly Original Shareware 92 huh?  Whew....a tenth of a
penny each!  That's inflation for ya!  I blame Clinton.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2214
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>MS> O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!

DC>If you are talking about the Digital Dreams from Ero Tek, there is
DC>nothing from McHenry on it, and there is no apparent connection to that

Yes, I know.  You're quoting an ad from about 3 weeks ago.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2215
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
DK>  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers,
glossaries,
DK>  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>I'll take this, where do I send a check!

Dave,

Shipping address as follows:

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2216
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/52                Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF@9> MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main
SF@9> MS> menu and download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest
SF@9> MS> prices, newest titles, and CD descriptions.

SF@9>how about making this freqable, mike?  :)  you know how us sysops hate to
t
SF@9>our bbses down.

All in due time my dear!  BTW, Thanks for the order today.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2217
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM>  MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
MM>  MS> download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest
MM>  MS> titles, and CD descriptions.

MM>Is this file an ASCI file or is it an EXE file?.... I would like to be able
t
MM>read via MAC environment

It is in .ZIP 2.0 format, with plain ASCII files inside.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: WE HAVE A WINNER!                       Refer: NONE
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    * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN *
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WE HAVE A WINNER!

Congratulations to Vernon Melton Jr. of Greenville Michigan!  Vernon was
one of the participants in our big Pier 2 CD-ROM giveaway, and was fortunate
enough to have been selected from a field of 643 entrants as the winner in
our contest.  The contest participant base was made up of Starvector
customers and postcard entrants who submitted their names between June 22,
and July 17 1993.  Mr. Melton's was one of the postcard entries, which
proves that you don't have to purchase anything in order to win in one of
our drawings!  Again, congrats to Mr. Melton, and his Pier 2 CD-ROM is on
the way!  For those who might be interested, we have these fantastic Pier 2
shareware CD's in stock and shipping at the discount price of $35.00.  Be
on the lookout for our next drawing . . . we might call your name!

                            Starvector Software
                                PO BOX 8160
                              Yakima WA 98908

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2219
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2220
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: PAUL NELSON                            Number: 2221
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/20/93  8:08p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

<<***** On 07-20-93, MIKE SHANNON wrote to ALL: *****>>
>             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
>                                pg. 1 of 2
>
>   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
>                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,  OUR
SOLAR SYSTEM ).  Please include in a catalog if you have one and if possible
post a reply here re: shipping date.  Also, I'm looking for a good
encyclopedia for my computer.  I am considering Encarta and would invite
your recommendations. I have two kids (10 & 13) who will use it a bunch.  I
run Windows 3.1 on a fast 486 with lots of memory and a great Video setup.

                    Thanks for your help...

                    Paul Nelson





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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2222
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  8:11p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Chris,

18 Jul 93, Chris Kuefler writes to Kirk Rawnsley:


 KR>> When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
 KR>> haven't seen or heard of it...
 KR>> + Origin: We are Not Saints, Calgary Alberta [phone]

 CK> Hmm I ordered some to. WIth us being in Canada.. that might be a problem.
 CK> Did you order adult cd's? Does anybody know what the border guys do if
 CK> they catch these?

None of the titles I ordered were adult.  From what I understand, it
usually takes a week or so.  It's been over two so far...

 CK> Hmmm my tagline doesnt show it, so just for the record, Im in Fort
 CK> McMurray! CJK

What's the weather up there like these days?  You gettin nothing but
rain?

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2223
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  8:06p
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DK> Just thought I'd ket you know that you can purchase the LU005 drivers for
 DK> $187...

CK> And if you convert that to Canadien you are looking at a price of $243.1

Well I'm NOT canadian.

     -=> Dave <=-     Mon  07-19-1993


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From: DODD HOWELL                            Number: 2224
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  6:11p
Subj: 5-20-93 cd-rom prices                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-Rom DISK FOR SALE

                *SHAREWARE TITLES*


Title                   Cost

Night Owl's 7           $27
Night Owl's 8           $28
Night Owl's 9           $30
Pier 2                  $30
So Much Shareware 2     $27
So Much Shareware 3     $30
Phoenix Version 3.0     $23
Gigabyte Gold           $29



              Progressive Systems

              Voice: 803-497-6525
              BBS  : 803-497-6645
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2225
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF>Please send a catalog to:
LF>Lois Frankel
LF>(I already have catalogs from Starvector and Crazy Bob)

With catalogs from Crazy Mike and Crazy Bob, what more do you need?  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2226
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
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JB>MS> We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout
JB>MS> if you want one.

JB> Durn. Should have waited a bit longer. Could have saved over $ 7.00
JB>by ordering from you. Bet I will ask you next time.

That'll teach ya!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2227
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: BOTTOM LINE PRICING                     Refer: NONE
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Here's my dilemma:  I'm pooped.  I have a new BBS that takes much of my
time, and it's all I can do to spoonfeed the bulletin board, run the
house, (wife's away) water the dog, feed the lawn, and take care of my
growing customer base.  Because of this, I haven't had a chance to sit down
and update my 2-column "monster" CD price list with all the new titles we
keep getting.  Come to think of it, I haven't had a chance to sit down,
period, so here's my proposal:

1. Get your BEST price on any CD-ROM title (or titles) advertised in this
echo by our competitors.

2. When you're ready to order, give us a call . . . . If we stock the
titles, we'll beat our competitors' advertised prices by 5%.  (No closeout
items please)

3. It's that simple.

With over 290 titles IN STOCK, we will probably have what you want, but
if not, I'll make my best effort to get it for you.  Unlike some dealers,
we STOCK what we sell, and usually have 95% of our advertised titles in
stock on any given day.  Night Owl 9: In stock.  So Much Shareware 3: In
stock.  Pier 2: In stock.  Global Explorer: In stock.  (Even weird ones,
like: The Sporting News, Eagle Eye Shareware, World Vision, Otherware:
ALL in stock)  So don't be afraid to give us a try if you have never
ordered from us before!  Starvector would love to add your name to our
growing list of satisfied customers!

Well, there it is in a nutshell - Shop around, get your best price, and
call us for a 5% savings!  Now please, no phony phone quotes, confederates,
or any of that stuff.  I've already been through that nonsense, so let's
keep this on the straight and level, and Starvector will give you some
CD-ROM deals like you've never seen before!  Who knows, if I like this
approach, I might just stick with it permanently.  It would save you guys
from having to read the "monster" every week!  8)

Mike Shannon
Starvector Software

p.s.  Yes, Night Owl 9 qualifies too!

    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2228
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 - $28               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                    BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
___________________________________________________________________________

Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Game Arena..........$15
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25   Up All Night........$20   Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts......$29   Business Assistant..$15   Learning Adventure..$15
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Sound F/X Library...$29   Cookbook Heaven.....$29
Int'l Graphics Libr.$33   Night Owl 9.........$37   The Holy Bible......$24

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  1:53a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
                  2 BRAND NEW ALL ORIGINAL ADULT CD'S!!!
***************************************************************************

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES....................................................$35

        * Over 1000 GIF's in 1024x768 resolution from ORIGINAL slides
        * Also has over 300mb of 24-bit TrueColor images
        * Over 65 top models
        * SoundBlaster front loader
        * Menu-driven
        * 675mb in all
        * FILES.BBS in root directory describes each model


AMATEUR MODELS.......................................................$35

        * 650mb of full color SVGA images in two formats: 1024x768 GIF's,
          and TrueColor 24-bit 16.7 million color TIFF's
        * Centerfold style layouts from around the world
        * Completely original scans from professional photographs
        * Includes Monster Media's "VIEWCD" custom viewer interface
        * FILES.BBS in each directory

SPECIAL!  BOTH DISCS.................................................$69

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!

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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 2230
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/21/93  2:18p
Subj: Re: Terry Woodward                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Michael Benge to John Robinson <=-

 JR> I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

 MB> Unfortunately, for you apparently, your opinion of the matter will not
 MB> have my feed cut.  Since I have not broken the rues of the echo, your
 MB> displeasure with my postings is irrelevant when not directed directly
 MB> to the moderator, who would then in turn determine if my postings were
 MB> in violation of the echo rules.  If you have a valid complaint, Tim
 MB> Helton may be reached via netmail at 1:133/515.

STOP I say let dead horses lie. So one person lost some money
one person has been draged through the street by that person
and now every one is bickering over nothing.
just don't post anything else about this!
simple sulution eh!
let's see if you guys can be man enough to do so.


... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: BRIAN COFFEY                           Number: 2231
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/21/93  5:50p
Subj: order rec'd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Got the Ham CD yesterday.  The wife liked ProPhone so much, I had to put a CD
in her machine so she wouldn't be tying-up the BBS machine all night!

SoftwareVault II is a hit with the BBS users.  I'll be ordering more from you
soon, probably on a quarterly basis.

... Another satisfied Starvector customer!

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 2232
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/20/93  8:09p
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


LN>As one of the author's let me answer this one--*YOU BET*, they are all
  >300-600DPI, no junk, no dupes--11,000+, and the book which will picture all
  >these will be out end of July-August, but the disc is available now.


Hi Lee, I just bought that CD from Mike Shannon. Please let me know when
the book becomes available and how to get a copy. Thanks.
 ■ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 ■ MSI HQ! BBS ■ 805-395-0650 Home of QmodemPro!


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 2233
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/20/93  8:43p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No


BH>To some people, the echo's are small claims court.  They just get
  >carried away in their little puddle of self inflicted power, and think
  >they run the world.

Hi Bob, You are right. I just got carried away with that statement about
small claims court. It's just frustrating to flip through over a hundred
messages only to find a large portion of them are vindictive strikes at
some individual. I can fully appreciate making the rest of us aware of
an unscrupulous person or dealer. I don't like seeing a bunch of
bickering and slander. It's just not necessary.
 ■ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 ■ PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU


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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2234
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93 12:08a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I want the latest and hottest Adult CD.  I want info on dupes and types of
files and price.

I want the latest and best Shareware Disc.  No old files and latest version of
files, not 6 versions of the same files.  I believe you get what you pay for
and I want the latest and best.

My main request is lowest amount of dupes, highest quality files and latest
version of files and pictures.

I am ready to buy now.

Please do one of the following:

1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
           or
2. Netmail me at 1:280/23
           or
3. Leave me a messgae here.

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2235
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/21/93  5:45p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Chris,

My CDs arrived from Starvector today, two and a half weeks after
ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves were
no longer wrapped.

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KEITH RITCHIE                          Number: 2236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  9:46p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time
getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to be
found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help... it
seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't
access it.
                        Thanks, Keith

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2237
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/20/93  9:31a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TW> anything he wants. My next action will be to see relief under
 TW> Policy Four, which guarantees Fido members protection from
 TW> harassment. I will file a formal compliant with my RC.

A policy complaint filed by you on this matter will have little weight. You
have never asked me to stop posting to you, ad only recently did the moderator
issue a directive for me to stop posting on the topic of the trade you refused
to complete.  Unless you make it clear to someone that you feel harassed, there
is no way they can read your mind and do what you wish.   It truly amazes me
that you have the gall to threaten this, when you should simply send me the CD
you offered.  You could have easily sent it instead of mine in the FED-EX
envelope, but since, as you personally said, you did not like the disc I sent
you, things worked out well for you, giving you, as you profess to believe,
reason to mail my disc back instead.  The statement that you stole from me
still stands. Granted I have my disc, but you convinced me you would complete
our trade, I paid for shipping to have my disc delivered to you, and waited for
you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much, you
caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal had been
made, your action, once again in MY opinion, as well as the opinion of GA law,
were fraudulent.  That is where my statements have originated.  I am due a CD
rom, I have yours here.  The right thing for you to do is send me the PC II rom
and $2.90, so that I may mail you your Physical Therapy disc back.  If you
refuse to do this, fine, I will continue to feel the way I do.  Since the
moderator has directed me to stop warning other people of MY problems, there is
no more I can do about the matter.  THIS will be the final post on this subject
by either of us.  You feel harassed?  Fine, my postings cease with this
message. Unless you take advantage of my final offer to allow you to make good
on this trade, any additional postings by you, concerning me, would be
considered harrassing also, as they would serve no useful purpose.  YOU could
correct a lot of ill will and do the right thing by completing our deal as you
agreed.  If your word is no good, little else matters.  Have a good day Terry.
Finis



 * MKRead v1.01 * Perot of Borg:  Resistance?  Now that's just sad.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  6:16a
Subj: SCSI CDROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053




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From: SULTAN QAMAR                           Number: 2239
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/21/93  4:09p
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IA> FYI they are not manufacturer but distributor. TTYL

IA> --- DB 1.53/002199
IA> * Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628 Fax:[phone]

Was wondering if you had any Pioneer 6 disc Changers.  I need a used one.  If
you have on or know where abouts I can get one, please netmail me 1:221/206
with all the info.  Your 1-800 number isn't available form Canada.

                                  Sultan
* SPITFIRE v3.3

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 2240
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  4:18p
Subj: Wierd Science                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/23/93  5:44a                       Private: No

 TH> But have you been in CDs longer than the dude who did the Magnum discs?
 TH> (G&D&RLH).. ;)

       I don't know if Bob has (he can answer for hisself). He's got to be a
bit brighter in any case...who, besides a charter member of Thom's fan club,
would set up their disks so you have to use XARC? I'm finally removing the last
of the Magnum disks from my system and removing the banner proclaiming
"To use the files off CD's #4 & #5 you must download and use XARC.EXE".

-DCK


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2241
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:06p
Subj: Trade adult CD for Adult CD ?           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

─  I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult
cd, If interested, Please let me know.


                   .....|<evin

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 2242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93  8:55a
Subj: Walnut Creek Games CDROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi.  We ordered the new Walnut Creek Games CDROM in January of this year.  At
the time they told us it would be coming out at the end of February, which was
fine with us.  Well, February came and went, and they told us it would be april
or may because they were having trouble getting authors and copyrights figured
out...that was fine with us as well.  Well, at the end of May we called them
and they said that they had it all put together and would be publishing it VERY
soon.  However, we didn't receive a copy.  In the middle of June we called them
again..and they said that they'd had problems with the quality of the cd, and
that a different publisher was having to put it out.  What i was wondering was
this:  Has anyone else gotten their cd yet?  I'm not particularly worried, as
they have been very courteous and our other 3 cdroms from them have been
exceptional, but I am wondering...  Thanks!
     Larissa

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From: ANDREW HUIGE                           Number: 2243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:11p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

─All,
    I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a disk to
start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can pick one up or if
you are selling a disk that meet's or beats this discription, call me. It will
be greatly appreciated
                   Boss

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93  5:03p
Subj: NighOwl 9                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be bough
for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2245
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/20/93  8:25p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 > If you consider a father of three, who is a property manager a
 > kid, you must be in your nineties by now, eh?  Must explain the
 > grumpiness.


Up to your old tricks Michael??  How did you go from no kids to three kids in
the last year?

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2246
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/19/93 12:32a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please reply
MS> back as to whether or not it is legible:

MS>  ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ I can't steer without my beer.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Ok here, your ad was clear! <g>


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  2:42p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       Four    Star    Enterprises
                     Custom CDROM production Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is in, and ready to serve you!   We can produce
  a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive overnight!

     o Complete confidentiality assured.
     o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media
     o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
     o Reasonable Rates. (We will meet or beat any offer)
     o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
     o Great for BBS Files, Document Imaging, and Permanent Archival!
     o Great for Multimedia Presentations / Demos.
     o Free UPS Red label shipping to the Continental U.S.

 Pricing for Custom CD production:

o Up to 527 Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $85 Minimum, $139 Maximum.
  $50 for each duplicate after paying Full price for the first. o Up to 650
Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $90 Minimum, $144 Maximum.
  $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first. o CD
Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee. o Free UPS Red label shipping (2 day Air)
to the continental US.


   Data formats Supported:           Software Supported:

o QIC-36 DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus   o Mountain Filesafe o QIC
40/80                          o Everex Tape  o PCTools Backup o Floppy (At
additional cost)        o Fastback 3.0 o 4mm DAT coming in August! o Hard Disk


Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are not
  set up to accept your Visa/Mastercard yet.


*** ** *** ** *** **   Special   ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders
 qualify for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.
 Offer ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **   Special   ** *** ** *** ** ***

For further information, File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node 1:239/900.0 at
V.32bis speeds.

 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday)
 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS)
 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

COMING SOON!  o Compact Disk AUDIO Production!
              o 4mm DAT


Revision Date: 07-05-93

===
 * OLX 2.1 * Me? I'm just a harmless, lovable little fuzzball!


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2248
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:39p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                 ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or
pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and
illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Four Star Enterprises
517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer
Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2249
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/23/93  6:28a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: 5680
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
-> them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves wer
-> no longer wrapped.

Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters the
country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibility to
force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then again,
censorship allows the Canadian government to maintain CONTROL over their
people - CONTROL that allows its political leaders to retain their
CONTROL.... CONTROL that perpetuates to TAXing thing.

Ironically, one of the world's few remaining adult CD ROM manufacturers
is located in Canada.... And this plant is 1/2 owned by the Canadian
government!  Go figger.

tim
moderator
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 2250
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 12:32a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* On 07-15-93 in a message to All, Michael Konor said:
MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.

Mike,

Can you tell me what the maximum capacity CD-ROM this drive can handle.  I'm
having a problem with mine (the one I purchased from you). I'm getting the
following error:
"File read/write error-drive may be open or disk unformatted"

I've tried everything I can thing of (other controllers, other machines,
switches/jumpers, I taken every none essential card out of the machines, etc),
the only thing I can think of is that the CD has too much stuff on it, and the
cd-drive cannot access it.

Any suggestions?  (Or could this unit be defective.)

Thanks,
Don Nelson

BTW:  I just received my CD order, so this is the first time I've had a chance
to use the drive beyond list directories (on a borrowed disk).

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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 2251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 10:39p
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing
and ordering information appreciated.

thanks,


Bob

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2252
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 10:59p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
adult CD's.

1.Loom
2.The Secret of Monkey Island
3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
4.A Line in the Sand

Israel M. Gomberg
330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
Universal City, TX 78148
[phone]


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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 2253
  To: PAUL NELSON                              Date: 07/22/93  9:51a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (20 Jul 93) Paul Nelson wrote to Mike Shannon...
 PN> >   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 PN> popular Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 PN> Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,
 PN> OUR SOLAR SYSTEM ).

 Hello Paul.  Well Mike really pulled one off this time.  I just purchased
 the exact same CDs, and they arrived Tuesday.  What a GREAT collection &
 for only $10.oo each too.  Pssss, don't tell everybody you have a CD full
 of clipart as they will be bugging the hell out of you for files, that is
 those w/o CDRom Players.  I am sure you will like them I know I do and its
 an EXCELLENT value for the bucks.  BTW, I have no connection w/SV other
 than a as customer.

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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2254
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/22/93 12:15a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-19-93, Boris Osadciw50ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI
Complete-$269.00
>------------------------------------

What are the stats on that NEC? Do you have a Mac driver for it? I don't
need a SCSI card, but I do need to know if it has two Centronics 50 (or
DB-25) ports on the back. I heard the older portable NECs had only one
SCSI port on the back. If you have any other external SCSI drives (new or
used) let me know.
-Ben


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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2255
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/22/93 12:15a
Subj: CDROM_SALE ANTICS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-19-93, Michael Benge calling in response to each of my messages,
and mailed my disk back,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>------------------------------------

If he mailed your disk back, then you *haven't* lost anything except for
your time. Quit wasting more of it by beating this [thoroughly] dead
horse! It's not like it was a floppy that he copied. Few people have 650
MB of space lying around.
-Ben


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.

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From: GENE FULL                              Number: 2256
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/21/93 11:36p
Subj: Summer Spectacular!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you all have a catalog?  If you do, my address is
Gene Full
2800 11th Ave.
Vienna, WV  26105

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 2257
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/21/93  6:46a
Subj: Windows                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR>         Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention
 DR> that you saw the ad in
 DR>         FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too ago.


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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2258
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/20/93  5:37a
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 Revie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

No thanks that's fine. I wanted on that runs on dorinfo.def without having to
run a converter. I've found most use door.sys.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2259
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/22/93  7:27a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DM>-> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are f

DM> Thanks for the info Terry, Sometimes I have to go by the Label, Try to
DM>keep up with all of the info from the echo but miss some...

I know it's tough. There's no way I'd be a vendor right now. It would
help if publishers of cds told the truth. But, then that's true of
movies, restaurants, aluminum siding, used cars..

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Childish Game: One at which your spouse beats you.


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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 2260
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/21/93  4:37p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll take Adobe Type Manager for windows if you still have it. Can send
moneyorder...let me know. I'm located in Moore, OK (sub of OKC). Thanks

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From: KENNY RICE                             Number: 2261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  7:18p
Subj: HCEAP CD-ROM Drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a cheap  ROM drive that is O/S-2 and Novell compatible... any
one have such a thing out there they are willing to part with cheaply..

Later
RiceMan

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 2262
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93  1:04a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.

Mike,

RE:  Concerning my problem with the cd-rom.
Let me add, that if I try to copy the file off the cd-rom, it usually does it,
but only after several (3-10) retries.  This is a GIF disk, I'm viewing
directly off the disk.  I'm verifing that the material is acceptable for the
BBS.

If you can, give me your voice number, or call me [phone] anytime.  I'm
in the mountain time zone, but I don't get home until late.

Thanks Again,

.dn
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2263
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/21/93  7:21a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MA>IA> > your store, now that your wife threw your ass out).  ;-)

MA>IA> I don't think it is very nice for you to mention anything

MA>Yeah Dave... it's his business what he does with his "trouser trout".

Maybe you kids can all take this soap opera to netmail and let the rest of
us read about selling CDROM products.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2264
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  7:21a
Subj: Wanted: 7th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in buying a complete version of Seventh Guest,
used, shipped, for $35.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2265
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 10:59a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>                  2 BRAND NEW ALL ORIGINAL ADULT CD'S!!!


Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal
as last time)
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2266
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 11:06a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> 10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Jo
 MS>    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and sear
 MS>    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes
 MS>    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more


I'll take one of these, too, please.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2267
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 11:07a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> 11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions
 MS> of
 MS>    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guide
 MS>    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.


Wasn't too thrilled with this one. What I'm looking for is a
bible/religion CD that has a bundled "front end" search engine with it.
More along the lines that an encyclopedia CD would have. What'cha got??
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2268
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/22/93 11:45a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Jason Taynor <=-

 >>    Anyone got the above?  Not the newer one with a bunch of stuff
 >>    removed? Also, I've seen it advertised for $29, any dealers

 BO> Yep, we have the older version in stock ! If your intersted, give us a
 BO> call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to assist you further.

Boris:

Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB? If you
have any of THEM at $29, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2269
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/22/93 11:49a
Subj: Re: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Patrick Rosenheim to All <=-

 PR> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 PR> Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 07/20/93, @ 08:12.
 PR> PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE
 PR>
 PR> AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00
 PR> ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
 PR> AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
 PR> DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
 PR> EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
 PR> FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
 PR> HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
 PR> WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00

Would be interested in finding our more about these titles. Do you have
descriptions, data, etc. on them?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2270
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  8:16p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

Hogwash.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2271
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  8:24p
Subj: Bottom Line Pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PCJ also stocks most of what we sell.  We can generally get anything we have
advertised if not in stock within 3-4 business days to ship.  So, go ahead and
get your price, then call Starvector and get your 5% off price, then call us
back, and we will give you an additional 1% off of the Starvector price on
items that are normally priced and not specials or closeouts.  PCJ tries our
best to be your low price leader to save you money wherever possible.


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From: MEL ORECKLIN                           Number: 2272
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  6:47p
Subj: Cd's by phone...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for BBS brag-points?
Can't seem to fill up your 100 CD-ROM Jukebox? Getting nice Christmas cards
from your local telephone company?

This won't help, but, it will waste a lot of time that you would otherwise
spend worrying about it.

Shareware CD-ROM titles available from SoftRent, Inc.:
------------------------------------------------------
  AB20 Amiga May '92 (Amiga Only) ........ $25.95 *
  AmiNet (Amiga Only) .................... $25.95 *
  CICA Microsoft Windows '93 ............. $25.95 *
  Games 1993 ............................. $27.95
  GIFs Galore ............................ $25.95 *
  Hobbes OS/2 June '93 ................... $25.95 *
  Hobbes OS/2 Nov. '92 ................... $21.95 *
  Info-Mac CD-ROM Aug. '92 (Mac Only) .... $49.95 *
  Just Games ............................. $19.95
  LAN Master ............................. $34.95
  Monster Disk 1992 ...................... $54.95
  Night Owl's v7 '92 ..................... $35.00 * BBS
  Night Owl's v8 '93 ..................... $42.20 * BBS
  Night Owl's v9 '93 ..................... $59.95 * BBS
  PC-Sig Library 11 ...................... $39.95
  PC-Sig Library 12 ...................... $75.95
  Simtel20 May '93 ....................... $25.95 *
  Shareware 1993 ......................... $27.95
  Shareware Avalanche .................... $43.95
  Shareware Gold II ...................... $48.95
  Shareware Heaven ....................... $27.95
  Shareware Studio II .................... $28.95
  Videos for Windows (.AVI files) ........ $36.95

What?  You don't have a CD-ROM drive?  We can fix that.

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-----------------------------------------------------
  Texel Double-Speed CD-ROM
    300k/s sustained transfer rate
    265ms  average seek time
    ISO-9660 / High Sierra / Rock Ridge / CDROM-XA /
    Photo-CD (multi-session) / and more!
    SCSI / SCSI-2 interface
    SCSI Controller NOT included

             ... DM-3024 (Internal) ..... $615.00
             ... DM-5024 (External) ..... $730.00

    Also available bundled with the Media Vision
    Pro Audio Spectrum 16.  An incredible 16-bit
    CD-quality sound card with REAL SCSI (by
    Trantor) which is just perfect to the Texel!)

             ... DM-3024 (Int) & PAS-16 . $865.00


All prices are in Canadian funds.
Prices subject to change without notice.

Payment:  VISA, M/C, AmEx
C.O.D.:   add $4.70 (CDN)
Shipping: $5.00 (CDN), your choice:  UPS Ground or Canada Post

*   = Currently in stock!!!
BBS = Inquire about BBS SysOp pricing

You can contact SoftRent at:      | When's good to call:
----------------------------------+-------------------------
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  In Manitoba: [phone]     | Mon-Fri 12 - 8pm CST
  By Fax:      [phone]     | Anytime, its a Fax.
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               Winnipeg, Manitoba |
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2273
  To: PAUL NELSON                              Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PN>>             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
PN>>                                pg. 1 of 2
PN>>
PN>>   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
PN>>                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

PN>Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,  OUR
PN>SOLAR SYSTEM ).  Please include in a catalog if you have one and if possible
PN>post a reply here re: shipping date.  Also, I'm looking for a good
PN>encyclopedia for my computer.  I am considering Encarta and would invite
PN>your recommendations. I have two kids (10 & 13) who will use it a bunch.  I
PN>run Windows 3.1 on a fast 486 with lots of memory and a great Video setup.

Yes Paul, I got it.  Thanks very much.  The CD's shipped out today (7/21),
and a catalog is included.  As for Encarta, I've heard very good things
about it, but so far have not put any in stock.  I may do so however if the
price comes down to a reasonable level.  I think the nicest one we carry
right now is Compton's Interactive MPC.  Great looking layout, and a nice
interface that will let your kids interact with the question/answer process.
In stock at $107, or we'll beat your best price in here by 5%.

Give a shout if I can help you with anything else!

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2274
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: adult Cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>> We have all three in stock.  Prices:   Storm 1 $25, Storm 2 $28,
LB>> Storm 3 $29.  Let me know if you're interested.  We can ship same day.

LB>Yes I am interested in them.  Could you basically tell me the difference
LB>between the three sets and in your opionion which one do you think is
LB>best?  I do not have a credit card, so when I decide which one I want I

Len,

Storm 1 was one of the very first adult CD's, and is "slightly" quirky in
that there are 20 or 30 files that cannot be read, but that's really no
big deal in my opinion.  #1 has GIF's, adult games, text file stories, and
animation.  Storm 2 is comprised of all GIF's which have been compressed,
or "GIFlited".  Banned in Japan.  Storm 3 is the best of the series, with
newer images and over 4500 GIF files.

Shipping is a flat $4 when you decide to order.

Take care,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2275
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING IS HERE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD

TITLE:  Precision Mapping

DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the zip code, area code, or even street!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for import to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or DTP program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!  This mapping
program even has "Shannon Road", which is a little dirt road my dad and
uncles carved out when they planted their apple orchard.  How's that for
thoroughness!"

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: STEVE ELLIOTT                          Number: 2276
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  4:45p
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

One quick question, do you ship COD?
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From: STUART ROSS                            Number: 2277
  To: VICKI FLETCHER                           Date: 07/21/93  4:15a
Subj: Re: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VF> Dear Mike,
VF>   Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
VF> I sure would like a copy if you do.....
Yea, me too......
                        Jim Ross
                        6597 Kentwood Dr.
                        Holly, Mi.   48442

Thanx...

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From: STUART ROSS                            Number: 2278
  To: STUART ROSS                              Date: 07/21/93  4:19a
Subj: Re: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VF> Dear Mike,
VF>   Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
VF> I sure would like a copy if you do.....
SR> Yea, me too......
SR>                         Jim Ross
SR>                         6597 Kentwood Dr.
SR>                         Holly, Mi.   48442
SR>
Oh, yea.... I just bought this CD-ROM, and I'm looking for all sort's of
title's. If your a dealer and have a catalog or such, send to the above name
and address.
Thanx.....

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2279
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/21/93  7:06p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <18 Jul 93  19:41:39>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >I am not really looking for a adult CD, but, I would ship it to you for
 >$40.00. If OK with you Call me at 1-504-893-7279 or post here.
I have sent you a check. The game is not for me, it is for a friend and the
check you will get is from him. I will personally guarantee it, however if you
wish to wait for it to clear, I understand. Thanks!


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2280
  To: JASON BURKHART                           Date: 07/22/93  9:35a
Subj: Re: Texel                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hey about that Texel drive. Are we thinking of the same
>>    drive???? If so it has the cables and a 16-bit controller???
>>    I'm just curious cause everywhere else I've checked into has
>>    offered a MUCH higher price. I'll be calling you pretty soon
>>    to order the drive. Later

Yep, same drive and yes they are brand new not refurbs !!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2281
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93 12:32a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2282
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/22/93  8:31a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>     800ms!  I bet that's it.  WAY to much info commin' down the pipes
EB> with this CD for an 800ms Drive.

        Well it has a sustained data throughput rate of 150k per second. I
gathered that would be the only meaningfull thing. But I have also tried it
with a CD disk cache and it still doesn't work!
                                                                        Edward

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2283
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/22/93  8:32a
Subj: SHERLOCK HOLMES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB> If you mean Consulting Detective #1, I ran it fine on an 800ms Hitachi
CB> (CDR2500).  There was a one second hesitation for every 20-30 seconds of
CB> full-motion color video, but it worked.  I was running the real disk, not
CB> a

        I was running it off a CD disk, so I guess the CD is screwed up from
the manufacturer. Oh well, that's okay though! Thanks for the info!
                                                                Edward

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2284
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/21/93 11:22a
Subj: Lost address                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RW>Am looking for the fellow that I agreed to purchase the Digital Dreams CD
  >from.  I have been awaiting my new set of checks, and can't find your
  >number or address.

If you can't find him, I have one used copy for sale for $20 plus $2.90
shipping.  [phone]

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 11:40a
Subj: New CD-Rom Prices                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works is now offering the following prices on these CD-Roms:

Big Sky Rom             $48     Software Vault 2        $32
Night Owl 9             $39     Monster Media 1         $39
So Much Shareware 3     $39     Digital Dreams          $32
CD Winbox               $29     NightWatch Interactive  $49
Up All Night            $21     Shareware Studio 2      $26

Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!      Visa & Mastercard Accepted
[phone] Voice    [phone] BBS - Online Ordering

                                                Jim...
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2286
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  3:02a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-


... I was *this* close to seeing elvis. But my shovel broke.
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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2287
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  6:38p
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> MW>I would like to order the owl-9 how I do that?...I like to save the
> MW>don't have a credit card?
> If you would like to pre-pay by check or money order, you can send it to
> our address below.
> Thanks,
> .\\ike
> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
> (VOICE)
> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over
Well, thanks for reply, but I am waiting to hear from someone who said he can
sell it for 25.00:)....I am sure you will understand...
Thanks anyways...

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From: DAVID BALNITES                         Number: 2288
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  2:32a
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Forwarded from "CD-ROM Talk"
 * Originally by David Balnites
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 22 Jul 1993, 4:18

I am thinking of buying Night Owl 9 and i was wondering if there is a utility
that will convert the PCBoard type multi-line Descriptions into the new
RemoteAccess 2.00g1 type multi-line Descriptions.

I do know that the descriptions have to be all on 1 line to use the import
function with RA.

                        David



... (A)bort, (R)etry, (W)hackitonthesideofthemonitor!
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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 2289
  To: BRIAN COFFEY                             Date: 07/23/93  7:46a
Subj: ORDER REC'D                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Got the Ham CD yesterday.  The wife liked ProPhone so much, I had to
-> put a CD in her machine so she wouldn't be tying-up the BBS machine
-> all night!

Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using it for
about 6 months and have found the search engine to be VERY buggy. Some
towns in the database will not be found by name but can be found by zip
code. There are also GAPING holes in the data for example it finds only
two pawn shops in Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and
Florida.

It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are aware of
its short comings.

Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is
advertised to do.

James
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2290
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/22/93  9:19a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2291
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/23/93 11:58a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@>1:3407/101

DK>MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
DK>  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers,
glossaries,
DK>  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

     -=> Dave <=-     Thu  07-22-1993


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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 2292
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/21/93  5:38p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
BK> BK>
BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
BK> BK>
BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
BK> BK> TM>about it!!!
BK> BK>
BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
BK>
BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
BK>initials!!!

Who said what above?

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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 2293
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/21/93  7:49p
Subj: Map cd                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF anyone
>knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it.

    It is called Street Atlas USA.  Any of the dealers here should have it - I
have done business with Doug Carpenter and Mark Arbacchi (sp?) and had good
luck with them.
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2294
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/22/93 10:22a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, I'll put the check in mail today.

My address is:

Steve Phillips
14608 Buckton Lane
Matthews, NC  28105

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 2295
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  5:22a
Subj: Soundblaster turn on?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone know the command to turn on the Soundblaster card so that you can
run audio through it like a CD or microphone?
someone posted a command to turn on the card without running an actual
program, but I did not write it down. Please repeat the post if you
still have it , or anone that knows it please leave a message.


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From: DUNCAN MARKLEY                         Number: 2296
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/23/93  7:29a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR > I am ready to buy now.
BR >
BR > Please do one of the following:
BR >
BR > 1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
BR >            or
BR > 2. Netmail me at 1:280/23


Maybe we can come and set them up for you as well....
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2297
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/23/93  8:39a
Subj: CDROM_SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Good luck.

Thanx, Carlos.


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From: JOE SZAJEWSKI                          Number: 2298
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/22/93  6:22p
Subj: N OWL                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Jim Lambert to Michael Kanko dated 07-12-93 ***
> MK>Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is?
>
> Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works
> will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source.
>
>                                                         Jim...
> Computer Works
> CD-Rom Sales!
> [phone] Voice
> [phone] BBS

Jim,

    How are you on Hard Drives and the CD Rom drives themselves. ??
If I come up to your store from Kent County Delaware, how much to install the
drives?  I have a 386 sx20 motherboard in a non table top case.  I'm looking
for a full load of simms for my empty extension board .... :)

                                            Questor
                                            Joe Szajewski
                                            Rd #2 Box 226a
                                            Harrington, DE 19952-1214



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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2299
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  1:16a
Subj: BUY 3 GET A POWERPAK FREE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
                            *-----*

 Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
 low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
 absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 2300
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/23/93  5:58a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Thanks for another speedy order filling!  Received my package two days after
you put it on the pony express - no problems on this end in Portland, Oregon.
Sorry, but I'll have to refer my friends to you as well - hope it won't make
you too busy!

KKO

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2301
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 07/23/93  4:43p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yep, I still have Adobe Type Manager, and will set it aside for you.
Send money order to me at PO Box 11319, Kansas City, MO 64112-0319 and
I'll ship to you as soon as received. Thanks.

-hk
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 2302
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting BUBBA THERRIEN to MICHAEL KELLY <=-

 BT> Michael Kelly , what is your major Malfunction?????????

    I have no problem at all.

 BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????

    It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unless
    you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
    hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Most
    individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are generally
    better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those who do
    not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.

 BT> Is your life that boring????

    Not at all.  I travel the world, was a military officer who fought in
    the Gulf War and now work in the business world.  I find life rather
    exciting.

 BT> get a life dude.....

    I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by any
    chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation out
    there at cocktail parties.


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 2303
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93  6:39a
Subj: BUBBA for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting BUBBA THERRIEN to MICHEAL KELLY <=-

 BT> yes my spelling and grammer are all wrong..........who cares?

    Your parents, teachers and loved ones.  But more importantly, you should
    care!

 BT> the fact is you have nothing better to do than look at grammar?????

    Incorrect.  I look to the content of the message as well.  But when you
    have to stumble over the pathetic spelling and poor grammar, it may not
    be worth the trouble to grasp the theme of the message.

 BT> get a life man!

    My secret identity is that of "Politeness Man" as portrayed in
    National Lampoon magazine cartoons.  <g>


... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2304
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/23/93  7:29p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Lee,

  Just got your disk today via UPS.  Many thanks, as I was not expecting it.
Took a brief moment to check it out and must say that I'm very pleased with the
quality and material there.  Also the CD-ROM/Mouse Interface is much easier to
use and performs much better than the one on the disk piror to this.  Again
good job.

  The main reason for this message is to let all out there know that this disk
is certainly worth the wait we've endured for it.  I think once all have seen
it they'll agree that it is prehaps the best around to date.

Wm.

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 2305
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93 12:26a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you explain what MPC and MM mean?  I see some CDs listed as either type.
I would also like to know the difference between the various types of Groliers
Encyclopedias.  I guess that the one that is more expensive than the others is
multiple disks or has a bunch of extra features....thanks.

Please send me a catalog also, if possible.  My company is JET Computer
Services, 3350 Highway 6, Suite 563; Sugar Land, TX 77478.
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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2306
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/23/93  4:39p
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't have
any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2307
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Michael!
On Jul 18, Michael Konor spake thusly to Sandeleh Francis @ 910/529:

 MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.

 MK> 205-837-5053

actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401 could be
put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have to put more hardrive
in my "other" computer and that means no place insdie for the cd. it needs to
go external, but i'm not keen on on the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got
an external from you, could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

if that would work, i'll take an external, if not then send me another
internal.   oh - fed ex didnt call before they arrived, so if you send me an
external drive, please give me a call with the price... 209 229-0473
looks like this echo is taking about 4 days to get from you to me, and fed ex
is a lot quicker than that.  :)

btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one alwyas hears
that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the south - well, your town
and mine seem to be pretty comparable on supermarket ads and rent.


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: SULTAN QAMAR                           Number: 2308
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  4:00p
Subj: Pioneer                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Was wondering if anyone wants to sell there Drm-600 ???  Can't afford new one,
so therefore used is prefered.

                                  Sultan
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2309
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/22/93 12:45p
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> Bob, I ask you to show me one adult CD-ROM that has an easier to use
DC> interface than Digital Dreams does, and more importantly, one that
DC> will autoconfigure to the users system, so that they don't have to
DC> sit there and run multiple programs (and eat up drive space) just to
DC> view the images.

   Hey Bob!

     I still appreciate the excellent *unbiased* reviews you've done.
Once you get the latest Busty (if you haven't already), let us know
what you think... I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other discs.
Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

     Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2310
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/22/93 12:54p
Subj: CD'S SHIPPING TO CANADA??               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> KR> When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow,
-> still KR> haven't seen or heard of it... KR>  * Origin: We are Not
-> Saints, Calgary Alberta [phone] (1:134/26)
-> Hmm I ordered some to. WIth us being in Canada.. that might be a
-> problem. Did you order adult cd's? Does anybody know what the border
-> guys do if they catch these?

Hi Chris! (I hope you're reading this too, Kirk!)

   Why don't you just order from us, here in Canada? Did you know that
30% of the adult discs in the market are actually pressed in Quebec?
Busty Babes & Southern Beauties are two I've got sitting in front of me
right now with MADE IN CANADA stickers on them. I can often get them
drop-shipped directly from the factory, without them crossing a single
international border. Plus, you can get anything I do get from the
states at prices similar to what you're already paying in the states
*WITHOUT* the delay, without the customs risk, and without the
postal/courier surcharges. For example, Hot Pix 3 is $40 Canadian, GST
Included, rather than $29.95 US (after 1.30 exchange & 7% GST becomes
$41 Canadian...sample price picked out of a "SUMMER SPECTACULAR BLOWOUT"
message I read in this echo today).

   Give us a call - you won't regret it!

   Vince
   306-789-4654 Voice
   306-789-8690 Fax
   306-789-8682 BBS

   Dealer inquiries invited!
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From: PETER CLAUSEN                          Number: 2311
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  5:23p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus=? Yes or No   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just receieved a Toshiba XM-3201B Drive from this echo.

I think the drive is fine, but can't get it to work on my Zeus equipped Amiga
2000.

The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable media that one supposedly drops
into the start-up drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does not help me
any.  Is this just for things like Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?

My SCSI Toolbox that came with my Zeus card does 'see' the Toshiba as one of
the SCSI devices attached to my controller.

So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?

Anyone succesfully running this with a Zeus card?

I also have an ICD AdSCSI controller card.  Perhaps I can install it and run
the CD from him if the Zeus fails.

Anyone running Xetec's driver with an AdSCSI?

I also tried installing the Toshiba in my 486 equipped with a Buslogic BT-445S
SCSI controller, but alas, Buslogic's CDROM driver only support SCSI-II
devices.

As with my Amiga, the controller 'sees' the drive, but that's it.

The tech guy at Buslogic told me COREL SCSI might be the ticket.  Anyone have
any thoughts on this?

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 2312
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  4:12p
Subj: Wanted: broken computer/e               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Wanted: Broken computer/electronic junk!                    N
 Wanted: Broken CD-roms, Disk drives, modems, Stero systems, monitors, TVs....
ect.

In the Monroe County area only, please.

        ******************************************
        * If intersted, write back and specify:  *
        *        1. Item (tv, vcr...)            *
        *        2. what's wrong with it         *
        *        3. your offer                   *
        *        4. name & address               *
        ******************************************

            Why throw it away when you could get $$$??


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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2313
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/23/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be
> bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

On 23 July, Boris Osadciw  advertised  it for 25.00 But Mike Shannon <I Believe
was the name said in a message he would beat ALL prices advertised here by
5%......

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From: BRIAN POLAK                            Number: 2314
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/22/93 11:46p
Subj: Sf cd                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mark,
        Can you tell me more about what is on this SF CD
                             SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19

                                                Thanks
                                                  Brian

===
 * WinQwk 2.0 a#774 * I like to leave messages *before* the beep.

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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 2315
  To: BRIAN COFFEY                             Date: 07/23/93 10:21p
Subj: order rec'd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

/a


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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2316
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/24/93 11:47a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in the Encyclopedia. Let me know. Tnx.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2317
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/24/93  1:30a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    On 07-19-93, Boris Osadciw50ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36
>>    Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
>>------------------------------------

>>    What are the stats on that NEC? Do you have a Mac driver for
>>    it? I don't need a SCSI card, but I do need to know if it has
>>    two Centronics 50 (or DB-25) ports on the back. I heard the
>>    older portable NECs had only one SCSI port on the back. If you
>>    have any other external SCSI drives (new or used) let me know.

Ben, I'd have to look to see if we have the MAC drivers. As for the cable,
yes we have them.

Regarding the scsi port, these units have a single port on them for input.
They are MPC compliant, offer 450ms access time with a 150kps transfer
rate. They come with the full factory warranty and are caddless.

If you need further assistance, please call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll
be happy to assist you further as we have other drives as well.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2318
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:30a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: PHILIP S ELROD                         Number: 2319
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/21/93  9:27p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Eric,
Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199
if so respond back
                             Thanx
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From: CHAD NEWMAN                            Number: 2320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/05/93 10:31a
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) for
an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the trade.
If you are interested you can contact me via NETMAIL FIDO 1:3400/44 or call
voice after 5:30pm MST at [phone], leave me a message in this echo area
or write me at 2075 Cooper ST Apt#633, Missoula, MT 59802.

Chad

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From: CHAD NEWMAN                            Number: 2321
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 07/05/93 10:38a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Howard!

02 Jul 93 20:13, Patrick Shen wrote to Howard Malkiel:


 >> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be
 >> willing to trade.
 >> - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

Howard I know you probalably won't go for this but it's worth a try:  would you
be willing to trade for "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD?  If so leave me a
message here or send NETMAIL to 1:3400/44.

Chad

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2322
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/23/93 12:06p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ryan, I am sorry to say that the 7th Guest game was sold on Monday. I hope that
you are not too disappionted. It looks like the lag in Net-Mail kept you from
seeing the SOLD post in time. I know that Brian Stark at 1:290/8 said that he
also had the game and was willing to trade. Maybe you can still work a deal
with him. Let me know if you want me to rip up the check or send it back.

Michael



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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2323
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 07/23/93 11:44a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-20-93 20:09> Mike Petro wrote:

MP>> I just bought that CD from Mike Shannon. Please let me know
MP>> when the book becomes available and how to get a copy. Thanks.

Heard today the graphics people are up to the L's so far--I will announce the
book availability here or take my number [phone] and check back with us
on about 45 days or so--Those clips that didin't print well are being thrown
out--So we have been told the disc will lose about 25% of the PCX that it has
now--

Thanks for the inquiry !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2324
  To: PAUL RABINOWITZ                          Date: 07/22/93  8:40a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PR>I am looking for a new shareware cd-rom disk with some GOOD files on it...
PR>CAN ANYONE HELP???

Hi Paul.  I recommend the following recent shareware discs, and
currently have them in stock.

Big Sky ROM     Night Owl 9     So Much Shareware 3     Software Vault 2

All four are very popular CD-Roms.  If interested give me a call.
Thanks!

Computer Works                                  Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card and COD orders.
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2325
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/21/93  1:54p
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PD>You do not offer the lowest price on Night Owl 9 as your ad states.

You don't know that unless you ask, now do you?  There are several of us
including Mike that will match any price when you can quote a legitimate
advertiser.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 2326
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/23/93 11:58p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING IS HERE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> TITLE:  Precision Mapping

Mike,  some questions about this CD.

I need a program that will do what Auto Map does. Take a starting and
ending point with several stops along the way and make me a map and a
listing of the roads and mileages.

I need it to allow me to draw a straight line between any two towns and
allow me to print a distance line with straight line mileage listed.

I need to be able to draw an 80 mile circle around an town and print a
map. I'd like to be able to automatically list the towns within the
circle also.


How does this cd rate on that scale.

Thanks

James
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2327
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/24/93  3:33p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Well it has a sustained data throughput rate of 150k per second. I
>> gathered that would be the only meaningfull thing. But I have also tried
>> it with a CD disk cache and it still doesn't work!

    That is the important thing.  I think it needs about 250k, although I
am not sure.  CD cache will not help in this case of real time
multimedia.

Eric


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2328
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/24/93  9:55a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->
->  BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????
->
->     It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unl
->     you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
->     hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Mos
->     individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are gener
->     better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those wh
->     not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.
->
->  BT> Is your life that boring????
->
->     Not at all.  I travel the world, was a military officer who fough
->     the Gulf War and now work in the business world.  I find life rat
->     exciting.
->
->  BT> get a life dude.....
->
->     I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by
->     chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation ou
->     there at cocktail parties.


Who made you god???  and if you don't like my spelling , then don't read
it......people like you start world conflicts...< my way or die
attitude> ............
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2329
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/23/93 11:48a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear
 KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file t


The Windows interface on the CD has a bug in it. Call their BBS and d/l
the corrected version.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2330
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/24/93  6:53a
Subj: Busty Babes Rel. 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Lee:

Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.
Since my lovely wife has planned the "Mother of All Garage Sales" for
this weekend, it'll be a few days before I can really scrutinize it. I
did take a quick peek at Showoff and it looks very interesting. Thanks
for the opportunity to review it.  Ciao!

... BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2331
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/24/93  6:56a
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 DC> Hogwash.


Doug:

P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who has
the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
customers. (Pretty Please???)

... QWK? I don't need no stinkin' QWK packet!
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2332
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: 5737
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Cana
-> BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
-> BK> BK> TM>about it!!!
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
-> BK>
-> BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
-> BK>initials!!!
->
-> Who said what above?

OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.

tim
moderator
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2333
  To: WILLIAM BYRD                             Date: 07/24/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-23-93 19:29> William Byrd wrote:

WB>>   Just got your disk today via UPS.  Many thanks, as I was not
WB>> expecting it. Took a brief moment to check it out and must say that
WB>> I'm very pleased with the quality and material there.  Also the
WB>> CD-ROM/Mouse Interface is much easier to use and performs much better
WB>> than the one on the disk piror to this.  Again good job.

Thank-you William for sending us the original scans that we were able to use
enabling us to remove most all the "T.I.T.S." BBS altered ones--We don't forget
those that helped us get back on our feet again. We salute you !

Knew the "SHOWOFF" interface was going to make this CD alot of fun, and a
breeze to manipulate--Now we have to sit back and see how Bob Jackson reviews
it :)

Take Care !!

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2334
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/24/93 11:07a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Boris Osadciw <07-22-93 11:45> Bob Jackson wrote:
BJ>>

BJ>> Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB?

I doubt it, I am sure he has 2.0--The 1.0's are real scarce and I have had
dealers trying to find them for their own collection--

Release 1.0---Has no text stories  (Pressed in Nov 92) only 3,000 copies
Release 2.0---Has the text stories (pressed in Jan 93) only 5,000 copies
Release 3.0---Has 3.0 written on the cover and has SHOWOFF interface.

PS--Sent you the new release overnight and am real curious to how you
    liked the new image interface ???

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2335
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:34p
Subj: Grolier's 1992 CD encyclopedia          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia V5.0 CD.  This is the
entire 1992 Grolier's Academic American Encyclopedia with 3,000 pictures, over
250 maps, over 50 video clips, and over 30 minutes of sounds.  It includes the
docs and registration card.  Asking $45 plus shipping....if interested, please
e-mail me here or contact me in the evening or weekends at the number in the
tagline....thanks !!

... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: MATT SMITH                             Number: 2336
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 10:28a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Let's drop that price a little then we'll talk...


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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 2337
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/24/93 12:04p
Subj: Bottom Line Pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Doug!

In a message to All <07/22/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC> PCJ also stocks most of what we sell.  We can generally get anything we h
DC> advertised if not in stock within 3-4 business days to ship.  So, go ahea
DC> get your price, then call Starvector and get your 5% off price, then call
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          This would cost more than your 1%
                          savings.  1% of $25 is $0.25, the phone
                          call could cost $1-$2.

DC> back, and we will give you an additional 1% off of the Starvector price o
DC> items that are normally priced and not specials or closeouts.  PCJ tries
DC> best to be your low price leader to save you money wherever possible.

Why not just say you will beat any advertised price by 6%.

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary.


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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2338
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: OS/2 CDROM drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I'm looking to buy a OS/2 2.1 compatible CDROM drive. It doesn't
 matter whether it's internal or external, buy I'd really prefer a caddy
 drive. Or at least one that is automatic. The one I use right now is
 horrible for switching CDs! Of course, I'd like it to be a bit
 fast <= 350ms. Please, let me know if anyone has one for sale. If you
 can get me a good price, I'll buy it in a second!
                                                        Edward

... REAL programmers use: "COPY CON FILENAME.EXE"
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2339
  To: TONY MACE                                Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Tony Mace to All <=-

 TM> Am looking for a Tandy CDR-1000.  If you have one, please leave
 TM> message here  or call me 308-487-5378 after 3pm mtn time.
 TM> This drive is wanted ASAP!
 TM> Tony

        How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.
                                                                Edward


... "Hillary, where's my college yearbook, I need more staff"
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2340
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS> I have the following CD-ROM discs for sale:
 DS> 1.  Compton's Family Encyclopedia - $30
 DS> Shipping is additional.  Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.

        I'm intrested in Compton's. My BBS number is 304-768-3682. How
 much would it costs for overnight shipping COD?
                                                        Edward

... Sacrifice, YES - Socialism, NO
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2341
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to Sam Figueroa <=-
 EB> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

        I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.
                                                                        Edward


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2342
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/23/93  7:53a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time
KR>getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to

KR>be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help...
i
KR>seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't
KR>access it.
KR>                       Thanks, Keith

KR>--- GEcho 1.00+
KR>* Origin: Dollar Saver BBS   410-360-0640   Pasadena Md  USA (1:261/1128)

There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq the "fix" file from us
as
"WBOXFIX.ZIP" at 1:161/205.  Sorry for the problems - the disk isn't exactly
worthless w/o the front end, wouldn't you agree?  :>

TTYSoon,
Dave Perkovich
Damar Enterprises Software


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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 2343
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/24/93 10:43p
Subj: For Sale`                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I just sent out your CD-ROM today, July 24th from the post office
at the Tampa Airport. I mailed it priority mail, so you should have it in
about three days..... Thanks ... Henry

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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2344
  To: DUNCAN MARKLEY                           Date: 07/24/93 10:08p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DM>BR > I am ready to buy now.
DM>BR >
DM>BR > Please do one of the following:
DM>BR >
DM>BR > 1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
DM>BR >            or
DM>BR > 2. Netmail me at 1:280/23


DM>Maybe we can come and set them up for you as well....

I want the best on the market for my users.  That's what they pay for.  I
guess that a smart-aleck comment like that shows your inability to deal with
someone on a professional business level.  But that's ok, don't get me wrong.
If it weren't for imature people, we wouldn't have anyone to laugh at would
we?  Have a great day....

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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2345
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/24/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have fair prices. I
bought my rom and a disk from you and had a little trouble setting it up but
you helped me out over the phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2346
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/24/93  5:17a
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 19 Jul 93  17:03:00, I heard Manny Wise shout to All:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be bo
MW> for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????
MW>

Manny,

  Yes, it is.  Free Spirit software has them for $ 25.00.


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.
        **************
        .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2347
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:18a
Subj: Night Owl 9 for $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: CHRIS MORGAN                           Number: 2348
  To: MARK STEIGER                             Date: 07/24/93  5:47p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, I don't own one but the Sound Blaster 16 has one on it.

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From: CHRIS MORGAN                           Number: 2349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:57p
Subj: CD-Rom Sound Card                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a CD-Rom and Soundcard package.  I have seen the Fusion CD
package but am looking for a used one.

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 2350
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/24/93  4:28p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Israel,

Answering a msg of <24 Jul 93>, from Israel Gomberg to All:

I would be willing to make that trade.  Give me a call at the bellow # and we
can talk.


Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2351
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Trade adult CD for Adult                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult
KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.

I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout if
interested.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2352
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much,
you
MB>caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal had
been
                                ^^^^^^
Geez, I'LL send you the three bucks if you'll just stuff a sock in it!
      ^^^^

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2353
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time
KR>getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to
KR>found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help... it
KR>seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't
KR>access it.

Keith,

Sorry, I goofed.  The fix for this IS on my board at 509-457-0206.  I had
it in a file area called "GENERAL", which requires level 15 access.  Since
you hadn't gone through the verification, your access level was only 10.
I've moved the file, called "WBOXFIX.ZIP" to the CD-ROM area, where you
can now download it.  I've also bumped your access level to 15.

Again, sorry you had to make a call for nothing.  ):

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2354
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR>I want the latest and hottest Adult CD.  I want info on dupes and types of
BR>files and price.

We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

BR>I want the latest and best Shareware Disc.  No old files and latest version
o
BR>files, not 6 versions of the same files.  I believe you get what you pay for
BR>and I want the latest and best.

Try either Night Owl 9, Software Vault 2, So Much Shareware 3, or Pier 2.
These are the latest and greatest.  Get your best price and call us.

Give me a ring and we can discuss further!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2355
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>My CDs arrived from Starvector today, two and a half weeks after
KR>ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
KR>them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves were
KR>no longer wrapped.

Wow, no kidding?  I'm going to have to start using Kryptonite boxes I
guess.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2356
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3 only
 $25 with any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2357
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2358
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG> PN> >   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
MG> PN> popular Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
MG> PN> Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,
MG> PN> OUR SOLAR SYSTEM ).

MG> Hello Paul.  Well Mike really pulled one off this time.  I just purchased
MG> the exact same CDs, and they arrived Tuesday.  What a GREAT collection &

Max,

Glad you got your stuff OK.  Ring me up if you need anything else.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  6:23p
Subj: USED CD'S                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just got back from doing a show, have lots of CD's that were shown at
the computer/CDROM show.  Have some for 10.00 up.  Gimme a call at
405-672-1708.  Will not post list, but please call.

BOB
:-)

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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2360
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/24/93 12:57a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > good, little else matters.  Have a good day Terry.  Finis

'Bout Time...

BTW, How them THREE Kids doin??  You been claiming them on your taxes???

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2361
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/24/93 10:05p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Eric,
-> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199
-> if so respond back
->                              Thanx
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 call groupware   mitsumi internals $175.00
206-472-1400
bubba
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2362
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/24/93  1:57p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone
>>    said:it can be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that
>>    ???????????

Yep and IN STOCK !! Call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad
to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:57p
Subj: CD SPECIALS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2364
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  4:08p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

J.P.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 2365
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/23/93  7:18p
Subj: CDROM_SALE Antics                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>for a CD-ROM, Terry Woodward failed to complete the trade
MB>as agreed.  I posted messages to him requesting he rectify
MB>the situation, he responded with a tirade of name calling
MB>in response to each of my messages, and mailed my disk
MB>back,

WHAT! He send your disk BACK! So...you are out some postage?
Why has the whole world had to read or skip through this junk
because of a dollar or 2 ?
PLEASE give everyone a break.
Thanks

Dave P.
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2366
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/24/93  8:29a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KR> None of the titles I ordered were adult.  From what I understand, it
 KR> usually takes a week or so.  It's been over two so far...

 Well, I was fourtunate enough to get them on Wen. Supproisingly the
 package was not even opened at the border! Just under 2 weeks.

 KR> What's the weather up there like these days?  You gettin nothing but
 KR> rain?

Horrible, rained all summer so far. But yesterday evening it cleasred up and
this morning it is actuallt SUNNY! My gosh, Its sunny on a weekend? Something
must be wrong here... 8-)

CJK

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2367
  To: VINCENT KAYE                             Date: 07/23/93  4:18p
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Now back to busines...How much for NightOwl's 9.0?
> Thanks, good "old" buddy...:)...
I just got it for 25.00..from 1-800-638-5757....5.00 shipping though...

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2368
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/24/93  9:42a
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Master
-> Visa accepted. Posted on 07/20/93, @ 08:12.
->
->  PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE
->
->  ADULTREFER CDX - Adult Reference Library               23.00
->  ADVENTURES CDX - Adventures of Buttman (MAC)           48.00
->  AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00
->  ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
->  AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
->  ANIMFANTI  CDX - Animation Fantasies I                 30.00
->  ANIMFANTII CDX - Animation Fantasies II                30.00
->  ASIANLADIE CDX - Asian Ladies                          30.00
->  BUSTYBABES CDX - Busty Babes                           30.00
->  DEEPTHROAT CDX - Deep Throat, The Movie (Digitized)    45.00
->  DIGITALDRE CDX - Digital Dreams                        27.00
->  DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
->  ECSTASY    CDX - Ecstasy                               30.00
->  EROTICENCO CDX - Erotic Encounters                     30.00
->  EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
->  FAO        CDX - FAO (For Adults Only)                 26.00
->  FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
->  GIFFYGOLD  CDX - Giffy Gold                            30.00
->  HAWAII     CDX - Hawaii CD                             23.00
->  HIDDENOBSE CDX - Hidden Obsessions                     50.00
->  HOTPIX2    CDX - Hot Pix 2                             24.00
->  HOTPIX3    CDX - Hot Pix 3                             24.00
->  HOTPIX4    CDX - Hot Pix 4                             24.00
->  HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
->  ISLANDGIRL CDX - Island Girls                          22.00
->  LOCALGIRLS CDX - Local Girls                           22.00
->  MOVINGFANT CDX - Moving Fantasies                      30.00
->  MYPRIVATE1 CDX - My Private Collection 1               30.00
->  MYPRIVATE2 CDX - My Private Collection 2               30.00
->  NIGHTWATCH CDX - Nightwatch Interactive                46.00
->  PCPIX1     CDX - PC PIX 1                              30.00
->  PCPIX2     CDX - PC PIX 2                              30.00
->  PCPIX3     CDX - PC PIX 3                              30.00
->  PHYSICALTH CDX - Physical Therapy                      34.00
->  PORKWARE1  CDX - Porkware I                            30.00
->  PORKWARE2  CDX - Porkware II                           30.00
->  PRIVATEPI1 CDX - Private Pictures I                    30.00
->  RIMFIREPAC CDX - Rimfire Pacific Video                 37.00
->  SEEDYMOVIE CDX - Seedy Movies                          37.00
->  7THHEAVEN  CDX - Seventh Heaven                        34.00
->  SMUTWARE   CDX - Smutware                              23.00
->  SOMUCHSTAR CDX - So Much Stareware                     30.00
->  STORM1     CDX - Storm I                               23.00
->  STORM2     CDX - Storm II                              23.00
->  STORM3     CDX - Storm III                             23.00
->  SWIMWEAR&M CDX - Swimwear & More                       32.00
->  TROPICALGI CDX - Tropical Girls                        27.00
->  VISUALFANT CDX - Visual Fantasies                      30.00
->  VOLCANO    CDX - Volcano                               33.00
->  WICKEDPDOS CDX - Wicked Photo CD DOS                   48.00
->  WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00
->
-> Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call:
-> 9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)
->
-> ===
->  * RM 1.0 00391 * See complete product lists in the FOR SALE Conferen
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Do you have the cd of teri Weigel pics?

I've seen it advertised in the back of pc computing


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From: JESS LEWIS                             Number: 2369
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  9:42a
Subj: re: cdrom drive                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a cdrom for under 200$ if you know of one let me know please.

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 2370
  To: BRIAN POLAK                              Date: 07/24/93 11:22a
Subj: Sf cd                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Brian!

In a message to Mark Abbacchi <07/22/93> Brian Polak wrote:

BP> Hi Mark,
BP>         Can you tell me more about what is on this SF CD
BP>                              SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19

BP>                                                 Thanks
BP>                                                   Brian

1200+ VGA photos 100+ sound files, all of Star Trek, The Next
Generation, Star Wars, Fantasy files like Conan, Dungeons and Dragons,
and SCI FI creatures.  Star Trek Games, and Articles also included.
VERY popular with the trekky boards.

Mark

 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Bigomy: one wife too many.  Monogamy: same idea.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2371
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/25/93  4:33p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

-hk
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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2372
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93  9:49p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you please send a catalog to me???!!!

My address is:

Duane Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks in advance...

C-Ya

Duane "|> affy" Floyd

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2373
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/25/93 12:55a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Kevin,
 Allways try to do my best, Have a good one and thanks for the kind
words.

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2374
  To: BOB HAY                                  Date: 07/24/93  7:24a
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BH>I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and
BH>Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing and ordering information

I can't help you, but as an astrophysics major I'm interested in what this
might be.  What is it?

 * SLMR 2.1 *

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:27p
Subj: Jem Disk Trade-In Special               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Did you ever purchase a CD-Rom disc only to find it didn't meet your needs at
all?  You know the one, all it does is sit on the shelf behind old Computer
books and empty Coke cans collecting dust!

Well here's your chance to TRADE it in and get a shiny new copy of Jem Disc
instead at very little cost to you.  Jem Disc was a hot seller last year and
it's file collection stands the test of time (especially if your a sysop).
There's over 500MB of great files in 59 categories.  The disc contains
FILES.BBS support and there is a plug & play ROMbrain database available.

For a limited time if you send us an unwanted computer CD-Rom disc and just
$14.95 we'll ship you a copy of Jem Disc!  Shipping & Handling is free.

FREQ the magic name JEMTRADE from 1:203/49 or call 916-921-9949 and download
the files from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the prompt).

(If you are interested in ordering Jem Disc but have nothing to trade FREQ the
file JEMDISC instead - the price is $19.95 plus S&H).


Thanks!

Michael Crosson
Jewel Distributing



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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2376
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:37p
Subj: Jem Disc Descriptions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just a quick note to Jem Disc customers -

The latest Jem Disc FILES.BBS descriptions are available as JEMFILES.ZIP. As
time permits I improve and enhance them so it's worth your while to FREQ them
every so often.

Many of you will be happy to know that I recently finished describing ALL 700+
.GIF files in great detail.

FREQ JEMFILES.ZIP from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds (about 250k) or call
916-921-9949 and download them from my logon matrix (enter JEM).

Thanks! - Michael Crosson

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2377
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/25/93  2:06p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199

    Mitsumi's sell for about $190 new from any of the big mail order
places, Midwest, DC, Computability.  Look 'em up in the Computer Shopper.

Eric


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2378
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  5:02p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Jul 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Doug Carpenter...

 BJ>  MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<
 BJ>
 BJ>  DC> Hogwash.
 BJ>
 BJ>
 BJ> Doug:
 BJ>
 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who
 BJ> has
 BJ> the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
 BJ> customers. (Pretty Please???)
 BJ>
BJ>  * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | [phone] |
 BJ> (1:106/30.0)
 BJ> 209/209
 BJ> 10 12 19
        I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education.
        Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
        Or Grandma and Me?
        I Would appreciate any info you can send my way.


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2379
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93  5:08p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to All...

 MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
 MS>                                 pg. 1 of 2
 MS>
 MS>    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 MS> popular
 MS>                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 MS>
 MS> TITLES INCLUDE:
 MS>
        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
        any help I can get.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2380
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

DC>Hogwash.

Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fit.
If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go ahead
and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2381
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

Great!  Got 'em in stock Dave!

z u later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2382
  To: STEVE ELLIOTT                            Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SE>One quick question, do you ship COD?

Affirmative Steve.  Give me a call anytime.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2383
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal
BJ>as last time)

Let me stock up a little first.  Hard to keep these new ones in!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2384
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:35a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 7/21
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................33.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................33.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................33.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............33.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2385
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there I am interested in the:

HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
HK->  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel
HK->case &
HK->docs,
HK->  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive
HK->reqd.  $28

I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the
money order ro whatever.

                                Darren Sellner

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 2386
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  3:47p
Subj: CD Library                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've got a CD Game Library that came bundled with my system for sale.

I'm asking $50.00 for the library which includes:

Chessmaster 3000
Monkey Island
Stellar 7
Loom

Also have the following CD's for sale:

Time Table of History (Science & Innovation)  $20.00

US & World Atlas  $25.00

Will consider reasonable offers. Trades only if local.

Thanks.....Bob


... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live from Central Texas...."
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2387
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have
>>    fair prices. I bought my rom and a disk from you and had a
>>    little trouble setting it up but you helped me out over the
>>    phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo

Always nice to hear from one of our many happy customers !!

I think you'll enjoy our NEW CATALOGUE as well. You'll be getting it
in the mail very soon as well as our customer appreciation catalogue
also. A LOT OF SUPER LOW PRICED cd's in this one, so have your
Visa/MasterCard ready.....grin !!

Chat with you soon......

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2388
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: ORDER REC'D                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using
>>    it for about 6 months and have found the search engine to be
>>    VERY buggy. Some towns in the database will not be found by
>>    name but can be found by zip code. There are also GAPING holes
>>    in the data for example it finds only two pawn shops in
>>    Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and Florida.

>>    It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are
>>    aware of its short comings.

>>    Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is
>>    advertised to do.

James, there is and it's called " Phone Disk USA " !! Much better and
offers a more up to date database as well.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to
assist you further.

BTW: Yes..both versions are in stock.

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2389
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: RED HOT SUMMER                          Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2392
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529               Date: 07/25/93  6:59p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

S9> actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401
S9> could be put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have
S9> to put more hardrive in my "other" computer and that means no place
S9> insdie for the cd. it needs to go external, but i'm not keen on on
S9> the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got an external from you,
S9> could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

Yes, you could.  Rod Jensen has made the arrangements.

S9> btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one
S9> alwyas hears that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the
S9> south - well, your town and mine seem to be pretty comparable on
S9> supermarket ads and rent.

My area has a higher cost of living than some of the other areas of the
south.  Probably because of the higher concentration of engineers around
the Hewlett Packard, Morton-Thiokol, Marshall Space Flight Center,
Lockheed, Toshiba, Pioneer, Chrysler, Teledyne-Brown, Intergraph, and the
list goes on.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2393
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/26/93  1:11a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD.
For More Info contact:

Eric Bravick
14014 Halstead Ct. Apt #408
Tampa, FL. 33613

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2394
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  6:25a
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053




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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 2395
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  3:45p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG> 1.Loom
IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island

Isreal-

Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for the above.
Reply here or Netmail. -Thank

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 2396
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/25/93  8:22a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Edward!

Friday July 23 1993 12:56, Edward Crouser wrote to Tony Mace:

 EC>         How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.

Sorry, already found a SCSI Toshiba one for my PAS16....

Tony

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 2397
  To: DISK VENDORS                             Date: 07/20/93  8:53p
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Please send a catalog to:


... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2398
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with 435 ms
access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think it said
something about the trial period expired.

If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on how you
like it...



Thanks in advance.




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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2399
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: ENCYLCLOPEDIA                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in purchasing a Multi-Media Encyclopedia, I would
prefer Windows MPC.

I noticed that Compton's has "Interactive", "MM" and "MPC" versions.
What are the differences feature wise between each???

I know MM is DOS and MPC is Windows.  Is Interactive Windows also??
Any added features in one version over the others?

Also noticed the Grolier's has multiple versions.

Which do you think is better?  And why?




Thanks in advance for your help.  Trying to decide which one to buy.





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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2400
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:55a
Subj: Re: DICT & LANG                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-01-93 22:08> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> It's going out to you today, along with the $6 shareware CD, and Oink
MS> 2 (for review).

What's Oink 2?  We haven't seen that one yet.  Or has my brother been hiding
the new smut stuff from me?  <grin>

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2401
  To: RICK MEENAN                              Date: 07/25/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Looking For a cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-12-93 15:25> Rick Meenan wrote:

RM> I've been looking for a CD-ROM containing GIF photos of porno stars.
RM> I'm pretty new at this so don't know what's out there that may have
RM> the material I'm looking for.  Therefore, anyone selling a CD-ROM(s) they
RM> think might be of help drop me a line.  I'd be interested in getting
RM> catalogs from anyone thinking they have what I'm looking for.  Let me
RM> know what's out there guys!

There are several adult titles available on the market.  Most of them
duplicate each other to a large degree.  I personally recommend finding a
reputable publisher, and sticking with them.  Lee Noga's discs are top-notch
and she's a regular participant here in the echos.  Look for Ecstasy Hot Pics
or Busty Babes at a dealer near you.  Of course, we stock both of them, and
you can give us a call at [phone] or [phone] for more
information.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2402
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/25/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jeff Jenkins <07-11-93 21:58> J.p. Ladner wrote:

JL> I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL> software for only $200 ???

The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new for as low as $175
if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I personally
don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc returned to me as
defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the customer to inquire about
the type of drive they're using, and they ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the
Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out there on the market.
HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with
their controller card, and have corrected it.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2403
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: CD ROM...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-13-93 17:07> Joe Stevens wrote:

JS> I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked at
JS> several models... the one whick is the least expensive and still
JS> offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does anyone out there
JS> have one and do you know if it is any good?  Also... I have been told
JS> it only has an 8 bit interface card... not a 16 bit.  What is the
JS> advantage to a 16 bit interface?

If you decide to go with the Mitsumi, make sure you get one of the "newer"
ones with 350ms access time, and a 16-bit controller.  The 16-bit controller
allows you more configuration options, which come in handy on a "busy" system.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2404
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 07/25/93 11:18a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-12-93 04:32> Jesse Schmelzer wrote:

JS> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
JS> order.

I may know someone who can fix you up:

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2405
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 07/25/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: MS BOOKSHELF '93 MPC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-10-93 21:30> Keith Sheehan wrote:

KS> Does any CD Distributer that advertises thier products on this echo
KS> have the 1993 edition of the Microsoft Bookshelf (MPC Version) for
KS> less than $129 that I've seen it for in such places as Elek-Tek &
KS> Comp USA. I was intereted in purchasing this disk but I don't want to
KS> spend on $129 on an electronic version of some books I already have!
KS> I can justify looking up things in the books for that price.

Give us a call, and I'm sure we can save you some serious money on that title.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2406
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/25/93  3:20p
Subj: Re: Winbox CD Problem                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-21-93 21:46> Keith Ritchie wrote:

KR>  I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a
KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that
KR> is nowhere to be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the
KR> correct info. Help... it seems like a good CD from the Dir listing
KR> but it is worthless if you can't access it.

Call your dealer and ask for the "fix."  There is a slight problem with the
interface on some of the discs out there.  The fix is available from our BBS,
too.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2407
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 07/25/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: Windows                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Dave Reed <07-21-93 06:46> Philip Polstra wrote:

PP>  DR> Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention
PP>  DR> that you saw the ad in FidoNet, because these discs are regularly
PP>  DR> sold for $34 each.
PP>
PP> Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too
PP> ago.

I set the prices, based on what I pay for the discs.  When I'm able to secure
better pricing, I pass that along to the customer.  You just happened to
purchase from the end of our previous inventory.  David charges what I tell
him to charge.  :-)

Next time you order, mention this, and I'm pretty sure we can give you a
discount on your next purchase to make up for the difference.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2408
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/25/93  3:26p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-19-93 17:03> Manny Wise wrote:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can
MW> be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

Yes, sir.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2409
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/25/93  3:30p
Subj: Re: cd's shipping to canada??           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/27/93  8:02a                       Private: No

In a message to Kirk Rawnsley <07-23-93 06:28> Tim Helton wrote:

TH> Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
TH> 500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters
TH> the country.

I think it's more like 500 people at EACH POINT of entry into Canada!  :-)

Jackie

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2410
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:56p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*********************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
************************      Adult Titles      *********************
*********************************************************************

101 Positions, Part 1        $45     My First Time (Things Change)$50
101 Positions, Part 2        $45     My Private Collection, Vol 1 $33
Adult Palate                 $38     My Private Collection, Vol 2 $33
Adult Reference Library      $30     Night Watch Interactive      $49
After Dark Trilogy           $45     PC-PIX, Vol 1                $33
All Beauties                 $28     PC-PIX, Vol 2                $33
Amateur Models               $37     PC-PIX, Vol 3                $33
Animation Fantasies v1.0     $33     Physical Therapy             $23
Asian Ladies                 $33     Porkware, Vol 1              $33
Best of Vivid Clips          $45     Porkware, Vol 2              $33
Busty Babes                  $29     Private Pictures             $33
Busty Babes v3               $35     Rimfire XXX Mini-Movies      $44
Club Expose                  $46     Seedy Movies Disc            $42
Digital Dancing              $49     Seedy Rom v1                 $27
Digital Dreams               $32     Seedy Rom v2                 $27
Dirty Talk                   $45     Seedy Rom v3                 $27
Doors of Passion             $45     Seedy Rom v4                 $27
Ecstacy Hot Pics             $38     Seedy Rom v5                 $27
Erotic Encounters            $33     Seedy Rom v6                 $27
GBL (Gay, Bi and Lesbian)    $33     Seedy Rom v7 (Seventh Heaven)$27
Giffy Gold                   $33     Seymore Butts                $49
Girls of Vivid               $40     Smutware                     $32
Girls of Vivid, Vol 2        $40     So Much StareWARE            $33
Hidden Obsessions            $49     Southern Beauties            $33
Hot Pix, Vol 2               $32     Storm 1                      $27
Hot Pix, Vol 3               $32     Storm 2                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 4               $32     Storm 3                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 5               $32     Swimwear '93                 $30
House of Dreams              $49     Visual Fantasies             $28
House of Sleeping Beauties   $44     Volcano                      $32
Kama Sutra                   $69     Wicked                       $58
Lovely Ladies                $33     Women of Venus               $34
Manpower                     $33     X-Treme                      $32
Moving Fantasies             $27     XXX Extreme                  $33

*********************************************************************
*****************  Credit Card and COD Orders Welcome  **************
*********************************************************************

       CD-ROM International             [phone]  (Orders)
       108 4th Ave SW                   [phone]  (Voice)
       PO Box 723                       [phone]  (BBS/Fax)
       Ephrata WA 98823-0723            1:344/79 (FidoNet)

     Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2411
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93  7:34a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yep, Lee's sent me a copy of BB3. Haven't had the cjance to go through it
thoroughly yet, but "Showoff" looks very interesting. You can expect a
thorough DD-like review of it shortly. (And thanks for the kind words!)

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 38 days.
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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2412
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Christian Smith to All <=-

 CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF
 CS> anyone knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it.

Are you looking for a map of every street or a CrissCross Directory type of
thing?  If you're looking for the directory type of thing, so am I.  I think
one of the national phone books on CD might do the trick!.

                        Keith Saturn.

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2413
  To: ANDREW HUIGE                             Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew Huige to All <=-

 AH> ─All,
 AH> I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a
 AH> disk to  start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can

Why settle for 450 files? I used the Simtel20 CD on my BBS and that had over
7500 files!  Simtel@0 CDs  can be ordered at 1-800-786-9907.  I don't work
for them, I'm just satisfied with what they had to offer!  You can also try
some of the vendor's in this echo.

                        Keith Saturn.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:16p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

First, many thanks to "Lady Lee" (Noga) of Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
for sending me a copy of "Busty Babes Volume #1 Release 3.0" (BB3) for
review.

Secondly, this review will follow the format, style, and content
paradigms that were used in my reviews of "Digital Dreams" (Ero Tek) and
"Pork Ware I" inasmuch as there will be three parts: Statistics,
Operations, and Visual.  I will use the same criteria as I outlined in my
previous descriptions of those parts.

Thirdly, having learned that FidoNet can tolerate reasonably long posts,
I'll use only three messages for this review, one for each of the parts
named above.

Finally, remember, WHAT FOLLOWS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION.  While I try
very hard to be as objective as possible in writing these reviews,
(objectivity is part of what I do to satisfy Maslow), individual
preferences, both mine and yours, will always introduce some level of
subjectivity, particularly in the operations and visual parts.  All set?
Here we go.....

Statistics
==========

This section focuses on numerical data relative to the physical contents
of the CD.

Let me begin by stating that measuring the exact number of files on a CD
isn't as simple as it may sound, nor all that important.  Most CDs these
days have thousands of files on them, particularly image CDs and
shareware CDs.  While one might assume that a simple DIR would suffice,
it won't.  First, DIR will count the . and .. subdirectory "files" (note:
these have been taken into account in the figures below).  Secondly, even
when using DIR with a "qualifier" like *.GIF, a directory may show files
that aren't actually there, or are corrupted in some way that makes them
useless and therefore might as well not be there.  Finally, what my
CD-ROM drive can read, yours may not, and vice-versa.  Accordingly, when
I give various counts and sizes and you subsequently find that your stats
don't EXACTLY agree with mine, don't take it too hard.

BB3 disclosed a count of 2663 GIF files (not counting the catalog
files - more on those later) totaling 499 Mb.  That yields an
average byte size of 187 Kb per GIF which is consistent with the
observation that most of the GIFs are either 800x600 or 640x480 in
resolution and most occupy relatively large portions of the screen when
displayed normally.  All told, the CD disclosed 3278 files occupying 528
Mb.  The difference of 615 files is accounted for by the 200 catalog GIF
files and by the utilities and other programs included on the CD.

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins", at least as far as the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name:
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different
directories as their "image mates".

Operations to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:17p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Visual
======

This part of the review focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery
as judged by this reviewer.  Accordingly, it is more subjective than
either of the two preceding parts. and should be taken as such.

Like its forebearers, BB3 is a full-blown X-rated CD.  Some of its images
are as raw as raw legally gets.  It's worth noting that a large number of
the scans are R-rated in that, outside of exhibitionism, no sexual
activity is depicted at all.  This is primarily true of the "BUSTYn"
directories (0 <= n <= 6).

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins", at least as far as credits for the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name:
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different
directories as their "image mates".  There may be other pairs, but I
didn't detect them with my computer-aided processes.

Like it predecessors, BB3's images are by and large quite good.
Certainly they are on a par with contemporary releases.  Most images are
either 640x480 or 800x600 in resolution.  The scans are generally sharp
and professional looking in appearance.  If you already have one or two
of the more popular adult image CDs, (e.g. Ecstasy, FAO, Seedy ROM, etc.)
you'll feel right at home with the quality of BB3's pictures.

As previously mentioned, BB3's directory structure is an improvement over
BB1 and BB2, IMHO.  In addition, there are some scans that aren't in
either of the predecessor volumes - not enough to warrant purchase solely
based on that fact, but nice lagniappe if you're going to buy the disk
anyway.  Finally, there's a truly new directory in that all of its images
(some 115 of them) are definitely not in either BB1 or BB2.  That is the
"MICHELLA" directory and it's contents are exclusively scans of a lady by
that name.  These scans are soft and generally dark.  They're pleasant
enough; mostly "R to hard R" and frequently with an unnamed lady friend
in tender-looking poses.  If I had to chose a single word, on the whole
(no pun intended) I'd call them artistic.

In sum, if you're looking for an adult CD with a variety of subject
matter, BB3 would be a good choice.  If you're a true collector, you'll
probably want BB3 to complete the set; I'm sure FLD's not planning a Rel.
4.0 - there'd be no point to it.  Release 1.0 is already a collector's
item;  Release 2.0 doesn't surrender anything meaningful to Release 3.0
in image content; Release 3.0's raison d'etre, outside of some mea culpa
rapair work, is SO.  There's just no more mileage in this collection.

So, Lee, what'cha got up your sleeves for us next?  Whatever it is, make
sure SO hangs in there!
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 2416
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  4:10p
Subj: TCM Newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TCM Computing and Night Owl Publishers, Inc. are currently working on
several joint projects in order to make available the very best in
CD-ROM Shareware.  Based on the rave reviews and comments we have
received about version 9, we are succeeding in that goal.  We have
several new products under development which we are very excited about.

TCM periodically sends out a newsletter to let our customers know about
upcoming releases and other news relating to Night Owl.  We also offer
those receiving the newsletter substantial discounts on Night Owl CDs
(and occasionally on PC hardware).

We will be sending out another newsletter (hopefully with some special
announcements and offers) in about a month.  For those of you who have
received the newsletter in the past, and those who have purchased any
products from TCM, you are on our mailing list.

If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:

    - leave a message here with your name & address (R/O preferred)
    - call our BBS and leave a message to the sysop
    - send us a Fax with your n/a
    - call our voice line (leave the info on our machine if we
      aren't around)
    - Drop us a line via US Mail

TCM has been affliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years now.  We
have been active in the actual preparation of all disks since v3.
If you want the latest news and deals on Night Owl, get on our mailing
list!

         TCM BBS - Official Night Owl Support Board

       Authorized Distributor (call for volume pricing)

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2417
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/25/93 11:26p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to All <07/25/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> *********************************************************************
JR> ************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
JR> ************************      Adult Titles      *********************
JR> *********************************************************************


JR>      Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
JR> *********************************************************************

Nice prices...........

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

John

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 2418
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93  9:04p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus=? Yes or No   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PC> The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable
 PC> media that one supposedly drops into the start-up
 PC> drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does
 PC> not help me any.  Is this just for things like
 PC> Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?
 PC> So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?
Yes, you need the Xetec, or another such as AsimWare (my personal preference),
file system to get the CDROM to work w/the Amiga.  Either of these will also
let you emulate a CDTV, enabling you to run CDTV disks (please note, neither
gives you 100% compatibility to run all CDTV disks).  Good luck, and have fun!
-Tami

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2419
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  9:33a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose
alone and I wouldn't buy Ice cream with that money, in this heat. Tnxx.

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2420
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/22/93  3:22p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-15-93  00:18 Peter Dettelis shared these words of wisdom:

 PD> Congratulations to you and Herb on your new home purchase.

Herb starts a new job on Monday, who knows when we'll finish getting the
house in shape!

 PD> Some discs that I use are "Computer Select," a CD-ROM disc of one full
 PD> year of the largest number of computer magazines available on disc
 PD> (i.e., PC World, PC Mag, etc.)

Don't think I've seen that one in the online catalogs. What does it
cost?

 PD> and "World Library," a CD-ROM disc of
 PD> about a thousand publications including all Shakespear's writings, all
 PD> Sherlock Holmes stories, and several other written works.  Several
 PD> other companies have started producing their own discs of literary
 PD> works like Nimbus and the Bureau of Electronic Publishing.  The

Primarily looking for general-interest nonfiction (for work anyway).  I
do have the Best of the Bureau. It suffers from weak search/retrieval,
in that it allows only an entire article (as opposed to a user-selected
portion) to be output to disk. I infer (perhaps incorrectly) that the
full-size Bureau publications have the same problem. Do you know if that
is the case?

 PD> dollars.  Newsweek on CD-ROM, with video and sound clips will be
 PD> released shortly and several other new releases will be geared towards

Have you heard anything about its pricing?

 PD>  ! Origin: COSUG BBS: Colorado Springs PC User Group 719-442-1612

New BBS #... new sysop?


... I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2421
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 07/25/93  7:47a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 23 Jul 93  16:39:50, I heard Jerry Gerolymatos shout to Kevin Plummer:

JG> I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't hav
JG> any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.

Well, I would have rathered traded for it, But...  The Disk is like brand New,
I think it was used maybe 6 or 7 times, I put it On-Line for my users, and
they really didn't use it, Soooo, I want to get another disk.  So how about
$28.00 and you pay shipping ???


                   ......|<evin

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From: EARL HARSHBARGER                       Number: 2422
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/16/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Reply to msg originally in CDROM For Sale (Fido)

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Michael Mulcahy <=-

 MM> I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my  children
 MM> can utilize as a good reference for school.  I have  heard  that

 TB> I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia"
 TB> for $69.  This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.  It includes

 I can vouch for the Grolier Encyclopedia.  We received as part of a package
 that came with a computer we purchased for our school.  It is so easy to
 use.  The students love it.  It (the CD) is much cheaper than buying the
 hardcopy set and it easier to purchase a new edition every couple of years.
 You might be able to find a better price than the above, I think I saw it
 for as low as $49.  It is a great package for the price.

 Hope this helps.

 --Earl


... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2423
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 10:05a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-24-93 06:53> Bob Jackson wrote:


BJ>> Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.

Great--Remember it is still Volumn 1 but release/version 3.0 of that volumn!
Don't want the user's to think it is Vol III--

Thanks !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2424
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93 10:29a
Subj: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90's             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-22-93 12:45> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

Ahh Vince--Your so sweet, but it has nothing to do with 'Bias'--SHOWOFF! was
developed by a team of PhD's that decided the user lacked a true imaging
toolbox--SHOWOFF is the technology that was destined to replace VPIC and CSHOW
etc--It has a better color pallette, and it allows you to manage your image
collection which is the plus here--The other packages just allow you to view
the image with clumbsy configurations--This package auto detects your video
needs and self installs, finds the dupes images on your drives, allows you to
build pages of images (1 to 1,024), magnifies any portion of the image many
times, and so on--The shareware version of this is on the Busty Babes in
addition to the scaled down version licensed to us as the interface--So you
have 2 goodies to play with on Busty ! Yes, the entire shareware version is on
the disc as well--

Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it on our
future discs as well-

Thanks for the 'Kudo' !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2425
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,

  I hope you find this disk to be of as good of quality as I have so far.  I
especially like the ease of use that Showoff provides over its predecessor on
the original BB disk.  The quality of both the disk and material on it are in
my own personal opinon outstanding.  This disk shows us that pride in a job
well done is not yet dead in America.  Granted that some out there may not
approve of this type of material but that being beside the point this disk is
of the highest quality workmanship I've seen lately.

Wm.

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  5:18p
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern Beauties      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A Fully Commercial - Fully Copyrighted Disc

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support -
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2427
  To: CHAD NEWMAN                              Date: 07/25/93 10:22p
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CN>I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) fo
CN>an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the tra

How about a copy of Pc-Pix Volume II?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2428
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:28p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

Mike,
You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2429
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:30p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,

Send me this one, too, ok?

MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,

And this one...

MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,

And this one...

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2430
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:31p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus

Send me this one too, please...

MS>12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all

And this one.

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TONY CASTORINO                         Number: 2431
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/24/93  8:55p
Subj: Re: $15 OFF CREAM OF THE CROP           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Terry.. Please add me to your mailing list...

                         Tony Castorino
                         P.O. Box 1462
                         Santa Clarita, CA 91386-0462

Thanks....

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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 2432
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93 10:46p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PC>I just receieved a Toshiba XM-3201B Drive from this echo.

I am using the same cdrom drive on my Amiga 3000

PC>I think the drive is fine, but can't get it to work on my Zeus equipped
PC>Amiga 2000.

It should work.

PC>The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable media that one supposedly
PC>drops into the start-up drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does
PC>not help me any.  Is this just for things like Syquests and the like?  No
PC>CD's?

Yes, don't use this for your cdrom drive.

PC>My SCSI Toolbox that came with my Zeus card does 'see' the Toshiba as one
PC>of the SCSI devices attached to my controller.

I can also see it but don't do ANYTHING with toolbox.

PC>So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?

You need Xetecs drivers or amiga dos 3.1 to see and run your cdrom drive.  The
drivers are only $50.00 and you get the fred fish CD.  It is a great deal.

PC>The tech guy at Buslogic told me COREL SCSI might be the ticket.  Anyone
PC>have any thoughts on this?

Corel Scsi is drivers for cdrom drives on a PC system.  Wouldn't do you any
good unless you have a bridgeboard and an IBM scsi controller.

Hope this helps you out!

-=-
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2433
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/26/93  1:02a
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello JOHN!

Sunday July 25 1993, JOHN ROBINSON writes to JACKIE ROGERS:

 JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 JR> Nice prices...........

 JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

 JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about their
political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big house,
real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to market
it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2434
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/26/93  5:56a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to JACKIE ROGERS <07-25-93 23:26> JOHN ROBINSON wrote:

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!
JR>
JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

I'll have to have a talk with the sysop of the BBS I post from.  Although I
consider myself to lean towards the conservative side of the spectrum, I'd
rather leave the politics out of business.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2435
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/26/93  7:57a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> "Mitsumi."  Seems the Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out
> there on the market. HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that
> Mitsumi has found a problem with their controller card, and have
> corrected it.
How many Mitsumi have you sold? And what is your technical back-ground?

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2436
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/26/93  6:59a
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Dave!

In a message to John Robinson <07/26/93> Dave Reed wrote:


DR> I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about thei
DR> political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big ho
DR> real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
DR> Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to
DR> market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)

Your Political Views and dislike of the Present "Gentleman" in office have
no Place in a CD-ROM echo.. It can only turn those for or against Clinton
against you for advertising it.!!

If you were to make a CD full of jokes, Add in the past few "Good Old Boys"
that proceeded Clinton...Talk about a JOKE.!!  Lets see, One resigned
rather then be prosecuted.. Another one put the country so far in Debt
it will never get out and the last one SAT ON That guys KNEE and had his
mouth Manipulated..... Talk about the THREE STOOGES.!!

Life is tough when it isn't going your way isn't it.???

DR> ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

Why, She is the "FIRST" one that has been in the White house in a long time
that had any Brains.. Do you have a problem with the fact she is a
        SMART "Broad" as you label her.??

Before I forget Dave... The CD "DOES NOT" Stand for "CLINTON DEBATE" incase
you think you are in the right area to advertise your Dislike for some
one.! ...
Enough said on the issue of the President.. Now, Do you sell CD-ROM's or
just bash other people who do.????????

John

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2437
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/26/93  7:18a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to John Robinson <07/26/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

JR> I'll have to have a talk with the sysop of the BBS I post from.  Although
JR> consider myself to lean towards the conservative side of the spectrum, I'
JR> rather leave the politics out of business.

Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a vendor who shows their
dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it the President or anyone
else for that Matter..

John

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2438
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/25/93  2:07p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq the "fix"
 DP> from us as


Dave:

I'd left you a copule of messages on your BBS regarding an add'l problem
with WINBox: Trying to view .TXT files from within a ZIPped file causes
the viewer to instantly minimize without displaying the file. Any ideas
what's causing this? I've logged back in a couple of times but didn't
see any messages to me.
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2439
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:23p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> PR> AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00 clips from
three movies; "In too Deep", "Bad Side of Town", "The Damp Spot", and "Three
Women" as a bonus.
BJ> PR> ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
BJ> PR> AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
Professional photographs of amateur models
BJ> PR> DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
BJ> PR> EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
BJ> PR> FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
BJ> PR> HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
interactive....
BJ> PR> WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00

BJ>Would be interested in finding our more about these titles. Do you ha
BJ>descriptions, data, etc. on them?

That's all I've got on 'em, so far......

Hope this helps, Bob.

Pat

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2440
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/25/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for reply..I ordered it for 25.00

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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2441
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:02a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you have a catalog, could you please send me one????

Address:

Duane A. Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks.

C-Ya on the BBS Waves

Duane "|>affy" Floyd


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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2442
  To: MARK ABACCHI                             Date: 07/26/93  7:04a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you have a catalog, could you send me one???

Address:

Duane A. Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks.

C-Ya on the BBS Waves.

Duane "|>affy" Floyd


... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2443
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/26/93 12:31p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

thanks

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 2444
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93 12:23a
Subj: Re: Pier 2 CD-ROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                    -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

Mike,
     Just a note to say thanks for the CD.  It's a real nice one, and very
easy to set up with a BBS.
Later,
     Vernon Melton

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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  9:07p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>MB> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

MB> MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual
MB> MS> monetary damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate
MB> MS> damage assessment for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?
MB> MS> I think we'd all like to know if your prolonged character
MB> MS> assassination is actually warranted in relation to your
MB> MS> out-of-pocket expenses.

MB>Those "damages", as you call them, would amount to approx. $20-$25.  We were
MB>to each ccover our own shipping, approx $2.90, which I did, so say no more
MB>that $27.50 max., $22.90 min.
MB>This has not been a "prolonged character assasination", as you say.  It is
MB>simply my right to try and prevent myself or anyone else from being on the
MB>receiving end of a bad deal.  BTW, I thought you did'nt want to be involved.

Out of curiosity, Why not get a Conference set up for "Better Business
Complaints" or "How Not to Get Ripped Off" or something like that.  That
way, when someone is ready to buy something, they can check and seeby
Subject and address the company or person directly and in detail.  It
may also make sellers aware that they run the risk of getting called if
they have "Shady Business Practices", and protect the consumer, as well
as show people who the "whiners" are, thus protecting the Sellers.

BTW, I am not saying that anyone is wrong, just that it would be nice to
check by name, then take that incident to the seller and say "Is this
going to happen to me???", and please, I am not directing any remarks at
anyone, just a possible safeguard for consumers and sellers.

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2446
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/24/93  9:13p
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>TH>I heard that!  If you need any on-site help, I volunteer ;).

I'll volunteer to hold the light, get the coffee, warm the chairs,
anything!!!

TW>The new one is 19, strawberry blonde, and cute as a bug. One of the
TW>other ones developed an attitude problem. So I shot her...

Does that mean you'll have pictures of women with 2 belly buttons???<G>

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2447
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93  9:21p
Subj: BOTTOM LINE PRICING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

I was impressed by the way you seem to do business, please send me a
catalog, or put me on a mailing list if you have one:

Tony Massey
118 Miner Street
Malvern, PA  19355

Thanks,

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2448
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/24/93 10:15p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
BK>BK> BK> TM>about it!!!

I said this, but I think BK, BK, ans SQ said the others!!!

BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
BK>BK>
BK>BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
BK>BK>initials!!!

BK>Who said what above?


Tony
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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2449
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/25/93  6:30p
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Overheard Michael Benge  to Terry Woodward on the subject of Libel

MB> TW> anything he wants. My next action
MB> TW> will be to see relief under
MB> TW> Policy Four, which guarantees Fido
MB> TW> members protection from
MB> TW> harassment. I will file a formal
MB> TW> compliant with my RC.
MB>
MB> you did not like the disc I sent
MB>you, things worked out well for you,
MB>giving you, as you profess to believe,
MB>reason to mail my disc back instead.  The
MB>statement that you stole from me
MB>still stands....... The right thing
MB>for you to do is send me the PC II rom
MB>and $2.90,


Icredible - Mike if you're only out $2.90 for the postage - chalk it up to
doing business through the mails and quit your whinning.

One this is crystal clear to me Mike - I'd never do business with you
through the mail or any other way. I think your tirade has gone on long
enough and in this instance has had the opposite effect in that I'd never
do business with such a whinner - especially one who is complaining about
a couple of bucks.

Isn't there a moderator here who can drop Mike if he insists on keeping
this up????




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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 2450
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93  7:57p
Subj: Buy 3 Get A Powerpak Fre                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

MS>               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  >  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  >  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  >  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  >  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  >  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  >  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  >  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  >  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
  >                            *-----*

MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
  > low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
  > absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

Greetings Mike,
  I was just browsing the CD-ROM echo and noticed your getting it from
all sides!!! So what do I say? Damn the Torpedoes! Use the
Photon's..they do more damage!!
 Anyway, I was wondering if you plan to offer something like above with
one of the CD's being Digital Dreams instead ? I'd also appreciate a
catalog if you have any and I could get copies out in the Las Vegas area
(friends....you know the type.....<g>).
 My Address:
 Mike Furst
 3833 Iverson Lane
 North Las Vegas, NV 89030
                                       THANKS!!

___
 X QMPro 1.0 12-3456 X How do I set my laser printer to stun?

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2451
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:21p
Subj: Specials / Mailing                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  IA> Several of you have been writing or calling about our SPECIALS. We do
  IA> our advertise our monthly specials via postal mail. If you like to be
  IA> in our mailing list, please send your information to: GroupWare 4826
  IA> Tacoma Mall Blvd Tacoma, WA 98409 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
  IA> 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX We have hundreds of titles in
  IA> stock with great prices!..

Ismail, Pls add my name address to your catalog mailing list

Mike Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: VINCENT KAYE                           Number: 2452
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/27/93  6:43p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Manny!

Friday July 23 1993, Manny Wise writes to Vincent Kaye:

 >> Now back to busines...How much for NightOwl's 9.0?
 >> Thanks, good "old" buddy...:)...

 MW>> I just got it for 25.00..from 1-800-638-5757....5.00 shipping though...

     Thanks...I will persue it...!

     Vince...

# Origin: Gigs, Gigs and Gigs of Files...Two CD-ROM Drives and Ten CDs!

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2453
  To: DAVID BALNITES                           Date: 07/28/93 12:41a
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DB> I  am  thinking   of   buying   Night   Owl  9   and  i   was
 DB> wondering if there is a utility
 DB>   that   will   convert   the   PCBoard    type    multi-line
 DB>  Descriptions  into  the   new   RemoteAccess   2.00g1   type
 DB> multi-line Descriptions.


 I wrote one the other day to do that for someone.  I'll  make  it
 available for you to file  request  under  the  name  magic  name
 PCB2RA from me at 3625/441.  This  utility  will  also  work  for
 converting the PCBoard multi-line file descriptions to work  with
 Maximus and Quick BBS.

 Here are the docs...


 It  is written to work on the DIR* PCBoard type  files  found  in
 the /TEXT directory of cds set up with the "more" prompt.    This
 is what you should do to run this program:

 Make a directory and copy ALL the DIR* files from the rom's /TEXT
 directory.  Assuming your cd  drive  is  G:   you  can  do  this:

 Md \text
 cd\text
 xcopy G:\text\.


 Next you can put Mike.exe in your path or in the \text  directory
 then type and enter "Mike Dir*"


 When the program finishes the listings will  be  saved  to  files
 with the same name BUT with an "!" as the first character.   i.e.
 !Dir1    !Dir2   etc.

 If you are satisfied with the results of the new  format  of  the
 "!" files you can delete all the dir* files then change the  name
 of all the !dir* files to whatever you like.


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 2454
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  6:14p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G     *******   **  **  ***** ****** **    **
 e    **    **  **  **  **      **    **  **
  t   *******   **  **  *****   **     ****
      **    **  **  **     **   **      **
      *******    ****   *****   **      **

Hey Canadians!

We've got BUSTY BABES... The best adult disc, period.
Features thousands of sizzling pictures of the bustiest
babes in North America including (yes!) Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF (it rocks!), and it's BBS Ready.

Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $50
that includes all taxes. PLUS there's no delay or worry
about an unscheduled stop at customs, because they're
shipped direct to you from within Canada!

Only from CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA.

6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice    306-789-8690 Fax


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2455
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  9:24p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA...306-789-4654
                  SAMPLE TITLES FROM OUR CATALOG
          -----------------------------------------------
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK - FANTAZIA FONTS  - TEMPRA ACCESS
ANIMALS MULTIMEDIA          - SCI-FI/FANTASY  - CD WINBOX
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE    - GAMES 1993      - SWIMWEAR '93
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL  - KINGS QUEST 5   - WINDOWS 1993
MIXED UP MOTHER GOOSE       - NIGHT OWL 9     - RETURN TO THE MOON
EDUCATION MASTER            - LEARNING FRENCH - PUBLISHER'S DREAM DISK
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART    - KIDS CAN READ   - MAYO CLINIC
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2456
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/27/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>>> Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB?

>>    I doubt it, I am sure he has 2.0--The 1.0's are real scarce
>>    and I have had dealers trying to find them for their own
>>    collection--

>>    Release 1.0---Has no text stories  (Pressed in Nov 92) only
>>    3,000 copies Release 2.0---Has the text stories (pressed in
>>    Jan 93) only 5,000 copies Release 3.0---Has 3.0 written on the
>>    cover and has SHOWOFF interface.

>>    PS--Sent you the new release overnight and am real curious to
>>    how you     liked the new image interface ???

Glad to say it Lee, but WE DO HAVE 1.0 IN STOCK !!!!   We just bought
out another cdrom dealer who had them on hand.

I've checked them and they are the one and only's !!!

Had 50 of them in stock, but now we're down to 20 and going fast.

Since we've sold so many of them, maybe I should send one to you and
have you sign it...grin !!!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2457
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/27/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??
>>    If so please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in
>>    VA...I had ordered one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't
>>    arrived so I called and cancled the damn thing...I need it as
>>    fast as possible...

 J.P. !!! Thier IN STOCK for $25. plus shipping. Interested, give
us a call at 1800-243-0517 and we'll be glad to ship you a copy the
same day !!

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2458
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93  5:16a
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 24 Jul 93  01:11:07, I heard Mike Shannon shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult
MS> KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.
MS>
MS> I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout if
MS> interested.
MS>
MS> .\\ike

Mike,

  Okay, I will trade you Volcano for Storm 1.  Please send the CD to:

Kevin Plummer
 1355 Clore Drive
 Martinsville,In  46151
  My phone is [phone]  Once I get your disk, then I will ship this one
the same day.

                             .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2459
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/26/93  5:21a
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 24 Jul 93  16:08:11, I heard J.P. Ladner shout to All:

JL> Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
JL> please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL> one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
JL> cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2460
  To: JOE SZAJEWSKI                            Date: 07/25/93  5:29p
Subj: Drives                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >> Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works
  >> will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source.
  >>
JS>   How are you on Hard Drives and the CD Rom drives themselves. ??
  >If I come up to your store from Kent County Delaware, how much to
  >install the drives?  I have a 386 sx20 motherboard in a non table
  >top case.  I'm looking for a full load of simms for my empty
  >extension board .... :)

Hi Joe.  I am not much into hardware sales.  I can sell the Mitsumi
internal drives for $185, but I don't carry any other drives.  CD-Rom
software is what I deal in.  I would install anything I sell for you at
no additional charge, but I am located in southeast Alabama, and it sure
would be a long drive for you! <G>  Thanks for asking though.  I'll send
you a catalog in the mail.  Take care.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2461
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  5:59p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
  >Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?

Sure, what would you like?  I carry most titles.  Give me a call.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS
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From: RON URBASSIK                           Number: 2462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 11:39a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM DESCRIPT 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     WILL BEAT ANY ADVERTISED DELIVERED PRICE!

Send to:  GOOSEBUMP GRAPHICS   BOX 5167   MENTOR, OH   44061
or call:  [phone] (voice)  24-hours / 7 days
          [phone] (fax)

Free Shipping, same day, by UPS 2nd day air.
Foreign orders - free air mail shipping world-wide.

[ ] MasterCard   [ ] Visa   [ ] Amex    [ ] Discover
[ ] Money Order  [ ] Check  [ ] COD

MISCELLANEOUS
-------------
CADDIES, $6.  Sony type.  Stainless steel mechanism.

ADULT CD-ROMs
-------------
101 SEX POSITIONS PART 1, $79. VIVID Professionally produced
adult education CD. Identifies 1st 50 positions with their proper
names and demonstrates in high color, motion & sound. 07/93.

101 SEX POSITIONS PART 2, $79. VIVID's final 51 positions. 07/93.

ADULT PALATE, $49, full color, hard-core photos from adult films.
Windows or MAC. 04/93.

ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY, $59, 537 mb, 2964 files.  Transexuals,
pregnant, big boobs, baby tits, milky mams, lez-o-rama, orgies,
orientals, dildo delight, really weird, etc. Descriptions. Idiot
proof, just type "MENU". Semi wife-proof (disk says "Adult
Reference Library" on it. 03/93.

AFTER DARK TRILOGY, $59, 650 mb. Scenes from 3 After Dark XXX
Videos. Full motion, color & sound. 77 minutes. Windows. 06/93.

ALL BEAUTIES, $59, 667 mb, 3991 files. Swimsuit to XXX-rated
super vga pictures & movies. Built-in viewer programs. Menu
driven. No descriptions. 06/93.

AMATEUR MODELS, $59, 650 mb. Over 500 centerfold style shots of
beautiful women. Photographed by professionals from around the
world. All images in 2 formats: 1024x768x256 color GIFs and True
Color 24-bit 16.7 million color TIFFs. All original, never before
published images! Automatic installation viewer program.
FILES.BBS descriptions. 07/93.

ANIMATION FANTASIES 1, $49, over 100 live action movies. Easy
menu system. No descriptions. 01/93.

ANIMATION FANTASIES 2, $49, over 100 live action movies, some use
SoundBlaster. Easy menu system. No descriptions. 04/93.

ASIAN LADIES, $59, 336 mb, 1810 files, no movies, descriptions.
XXX GIFs of Oriental women. Wife-proof if insert is removed -
disk says only "AL" on it. 03/93.

BANGKOK, $69. From Germany. 444 mb of international erotica & art
clips. 07/93.

BEST of VIVID, $79. Full motion, color & sound segments from
VIVID porno films. 07/93.

BUSTY BABES, $59. 673 mb, 4176 files, no movies, descriptions.
Besides the usual hard-core, it is heavy on big boobs, plus over
800 nude film stars. SoundBlaster front loader. BBS ready. "Wife-
proof" if insert is removed (disk label says only "B.B."). 12/92.

DIGITAL DANCING, THE EROTIC CHALLENGE, $69. Interactive multime-
dia game. If you win, the dancer of your choice takes off every-
thing. 4 sexy dancers. IBM & MAC versions. 07/93.

DIGITAL DREAMS, $59. 632 mb, 2335 files. Menu. All original scans
1024x768x256 or 800x600x256. No BBS ads. All nudes, no men, no
penetration. Descriptions for PCBoard, Wildcat, Spitfire & QBBS.
06/93.

DIRTY TALK, $69. 35 minutes, full color, full motion, video &
sound. 4 gorgeous nude girls perform for you. Requires DOS 5.0 or
higher, 2mb RAM, 1 mb VGA card, mouse. 06/93.

ECSTASY HOT PICS, $59. 572 mb, 2600+ GIFs, 330+ movies, text
stories, 4265 files total. Sound. Menu, mouse support. Descrip-
tions, BBS ready. Not wife-proof because of title on disk. 09/92.

EROTIC ENCOUNTERS, $59. 710 MB! 4309 files. All GIFs. No descrip-
tions. "Wife-proof" if insert is removed (disk label says only
"E.E."). 10/92.

FAO 3 DISK SET, $79. 1892 mb, 2600+ files. GIFs, DLs, GLs, FLIs.

GAY WORLD 1, $69.

GAY WORLD 2, $69. 519 mb. 3414 all male gay GIFs plus 706 all
male JPGs. BBS descriptions. 07/93.

GBL 1, $59, (Gay, Bi, Lesbian). 347 mb, 2494 files, descriptions.
Wife proof if insert is removed. 11/92.

GIFFY GOLD, $59. 214 mb, 1055 files, descriptions. Wife-proof.
Amateur snapshots of San Diego girls range from G thru XXX.
These images are not on any other CD. IBM/MAC. 04/93.

GIRLS OF VIVID VOL 1, $69. Over 500 hand picked high & true color
stills of VIVID beauties. Menu driven, user friendly. Use Mag-
nifying Glass feature for closer look anywhere on screen. 07/93.

GIRLS OF VIVID VOL 2, $69. Over 500 additional high & true color
slides of VIVID beauties. Menu driven, user friendly. 07/93.

GLAMOUR GIRLS 1943, $69, nostalgic nude photos and quicktime
movies from the 1940's. IBM/MAC. 06/93.

HIDDEN OBSESSIONS, $69, Fractel digital compression, full screen,
30 frames/sec. If this one doesn't excite you, you're dead! DOS,
286 16 mhz or better. 90 minutes. 06/93.

HOUSE OF DREAMS, $69. Erotic fantasy movie by creator of Hidden
Obsessions. 76 min. MAC. 07/93.

HOUSE OF SLEEPING BEAUTIES, $69, full length digital movie. Sleep
next to the women of your dreams. PC or MAC. Requires 386SX 20mhz
or better, Windows 3.1 or higher, 4 mb free ram, at least 350 ms
CD-ROM drive, 4 mb free hard drive space, sound card.  05/93.

KAMA SUTRA, $79. The Indian Art of Sexual Positions. Watch for
your favorite as the Prince of Affection explores the various
possibilities of love with some of VIVID's most beautiful women.
Full motion, sound & High Color. 07/93.

LOVELY LADIES II, $59, 676 mb of .BMP files. 111 swimsuit
pictures, 113 lingerie shots, 85 sweaty women working out, 91
close-ups of female body parts. Each image in both 1024x768 &
640x480. No descriptions.

MANPOWER, $69, 600 mb, 1700 files. Hard-core gay GIFs. All sharp,
high-quality 800x600x256 original scans. No BBS ads. FILES.BBS.
Easy, just type 'MENU'. 07/93.

MOVING FANTASIES, $49, 49 FLI, 145 GLs, 194 movies total, desc-
riptions. Excellent menu makes it fun to use. Wife-proof. 01/93.

MY FIRST TIME, $79, full length adult feature film on CD-ROM
starring Nikki Dial. (DOS based) 2 disk set. 80 minutes. 05/93.
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From: RON URBASSIK                           Number: 2464
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 11:39a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM DESCRIPT 2/2               Refer: NONE
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MY PRIVATE COLLECTION, $59, 675 mb, 4094 files total.  Descrip-
tions. Movies. 114 Amateur Action GIFs. Wife-proof. 06/92.

MY PRIVATE COLLECTION 2, $59, 649 mb, 3340 files. No movies.
Descriptions. Wife-proof. 02/93.

NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE, $69. Adult adventure video. This one is
fun! Check out the action as you make the rounds from the beach
to the bedroom. PC & MAC versions. 05/93.

NIX PIX, HOT PIX 1, $89, 622 mb, 4901 files total. Descriptions.
Anal, beastiality, bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals,
water sports, etc. Semi wife-proof because of title. 12/91.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 2, $49, 563 mb, 2950 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 04/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 3, $49, 629 mb, 4080 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 12/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 4, $49, 598 mb, 3511 files descriptions. Contains
only the Nix Pix Windy City original GIFs & stories ('WC' file-
names only) from the Hot Pix 1, 2 & 3 CDs. Semi wife-proof.12/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 5, $49, 588 mb, 3338 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 06/93.

PC PIX 1, $59, 646 mb, 5500+ GIFs, 200+ movies, descriptions on
floppy. 640x480x256 or higher.  Co-op project of Nitelog Imaging,
Gabby's Lounge, Garlique Graphics, Twylight Zone, Prizm, Farmer's
Daughter & Sugar Magnolia. Not wife-proof. 05/92.

PC PIX 2, $59, 633 mb, 3001 files. Most are 800x600x256 or high-
er. From Picture Gallery, Hi Tech Place, Library, NightHawk,
Twilight Zone. Descriptions. Wife-proof. 09/92.

PC PIX 3, $59, 671 mb, 3590 files. No movies. From Nightlog
Imaging, Garlique Graphics, Hi Tech Place, NightHawk, Gabby's
Lounge. Wife-proof. Descriptions. 02/93.

PHYSICAL THERAPY, $39, 614mb of GIF, FLI, GL, DL files. 3381
files. No descriptions. Wife-proof. Formerly XXX EXTREME. 09/92.

PIXURE ROM 1, General Appeal & Nudes, $59, 510+mb, 3000+ files.
1/2 G-rated, 1/2 nudes. Descriptions. IBM or MAC. 08/91.

PIXURE ROM 2, Perversia Galore, $59, 640+mb. 40 mb animations.
All adult. Descriptions. IBM or MAC.

PIXURE ROM 3, Hedonistic Tendencies, $59, 645+mb. 620 mb GIFs, 25
mb 32k color Targas. 500+ 1024x768x256 GIFs, 225 800x600x256
GIFs. All adult. Descriptions. IBM or MAC. 09/92.

PIXURE ROM Triple Exposure, $109.  Volumes 1, 2 & 3.

PORK-WARE 1, $59, 655 mb, 2148 files, no movies, descriptions.
Wife-proof if insert is removed. 04/93.

PORK-WARE 2, $59, 649 mb, 3,543 files, 135 movies, descriptions.
Wife-proof if insert is removed. 05/93.

PRIVATE PICTURES, $49, 135 mb, 600 GIFs, 70 movies, no descrip-
tions. Menu makes it easy to use! Includes free poster. 12/91.

RIMFIRE PACIFIC, $59, color & sound film clips from the best
adult features. Video for Windows software included. Requires
Windows 3.1 (or Windows 3.0 with Multi-Media extensions). 03/93.

SECRETS, $69. 80 min Quicktime 1.5 movie. 11 gorgeous women that
will do anything for a buck. MAC.

SEEDY ROM 1 thru 6, $49 ea. Volumes 1 thru 5 are all GIFs, volume
6 also has movies & text files. Duplicate checked 3 ways. Photo
Dex gives pages of mini pics. Click with mouse to blow up to full
screen. SPECIAL - all 6 for $199! Good for export - "wife-proof"
disk label says only "SEEDY ROM 1" with no hint that it contains
adult material. Descriptions. 08/92.

SEEDY ROM 7th HEAVEN, $49. 698 mb, 3701 files, 2900+ GIFs.
Descriptions. Wife-proof. 10/92.

SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISK #1, $59, the best in professional & amateur
adult movies. 6 titles from 7 min to 22 min long. Over 1 hr of
full color videos with stereo sound. Windows required. 05/93.

SEXCAPADES, THE MOVIE, $79. 600 mb, 256 color movie with sound.
Group of friends playing Sexcapades computer game. Fills 3/4
screen, 30 minutes. Requires at least a 386SX computer. 05/93.

SEYMORE BUTTS, INTERACTIVE ADVENTURES OF, $69. You call the shots
as you join Seymore & his camera in exploring his neighborhood &
help him meet & mate with the girl of his dreams. 100+ minutes of
custom shot digital video. 1st person point of view puts you in
the action. Windows & MAC versions. 07/93.

SMUTWARE, $59, 640 mb, 1001 1024x768x256, 2010 800x600x256, 3011
gifs total, 101 movies. No descriptions. Not wife-proof. 02/93.

SO MUCH STAREWARE, $59, 580 mb, 2923 files, descriptions, PCBoard
format. 100 mb R-rated GIFs, 309 mb XXX, 171 mb XXX movies, some
with sound. Easy menu & help file. 02/92.

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES, $59, 675 mb. Nudes, not hard-core. 1000 GIFs
at 1024x768x256 from original 35mm slides. 300 mb of best GIFs in
24-bit True Color. Menu driven, user friendly. 07/93.

STORM 1, $39, 700 mb, 4800 GIFs, 1400 ZIP files, 7395 files
total. Descriptions. Movies, 50 mb of text files. 1st adult cd-
rom. Wife-proof. 08/91.

STORM 2, $49, 625 mb, 4800+ GIFs, 90 movies, 5150 files total.
Install program gives automatic slide show. Besides the usual
stuff, it also contains hermaphrodites, 2.4mb gay, 10.5 mb
transexuals. Wife-proof. 04/92.

STORM 3, $59, 619 mb, 4531 files. Descriptions. 112 mb male pics.
Semi wife-proof (says Adam & Eve Portfolio on disk). 11/92.

STORM 1, 2 and 3 SPECIAL, $125, for all 3!

VISUAL FANTASIES, $59, 466 mb, 2633 files (all GIFs). Bi-sexual,
transexual, fist, bondage, big-boobs, pregnant. Descriptions.
Semi wife-proof (disk has picture of girl's face). 10/91.

VOLCANO, $59, 374 mb, 1475 GIFs, 1515 files total. No movies, 6
32000 color Targa files. No descriptions. Least pornographic CD-
ROM, but not wife-proof. 02/92.

WICKED, $79, Playboy Playmate Teri Weigel in 1st XXX Kodak Photo
CD. Shot during filming of 'Wicked'. 3 versions - DOS, Windows &
MAC. Free Kodak Photo CD Access Software & Photo Sampler CD-ROM
(2 CD-ROMs total). 06/93.

WOMEN OF VENUS, $59, swimsuit edition. Windows or DOS. Background
music. User friendly interface. MS-DOS, MAC or Amiga.
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  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 11:39a
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2466
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/20/93  3:45a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <16 Jul 93  18:08:01>, Michael Benge (1:133/716) writes:

 >That still does not change the fact that he is a liar, a fraud, and a
 >thief, now does it?
I think we have all had enough of your personal vendetta, this is a CD-ROM
sale echo not the complaint department. If you can't conduct business here
please leave, I am tired of reading your messages.

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2467
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  1:01p
Subj: Digital Dreams Ero Tek                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Digital Dreams Ero Tek R-rated cd-rom, for sale for $20.00 U.S.
You pay shipping.  Send netmail to 1:310/5 or leave a message here.

Jim Taylor

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2468
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/23/93  1:09p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of
BJ>the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what
BJ>follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with
BJ>my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came
BJ>from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness
BJ>is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say
BJ>DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too.

Yep, I agree. I don't know what happened, but it looks like a bad conversion
or bad scanner, or bad images at the start. I would put money on the scanner
or the graphic format converter.


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2469
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/23/93  1:09p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of
BJ>the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what
BJ>follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with
BJ>my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came
BJ>from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness
BJ>is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say
BJ>DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too.

Yep, I agree. I don't know what happened, but it looks like a bad conversion
or bad scanner, or bad images at the start. I would put money on the scanner
or the graphic format converter.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2470
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 10:10p
Subj: Audio Cables                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know a good source for audio cables? I need a cable to go from a
Sony CDU-31A to a Soundblaster Pro. I also need a cable to go from a
Mitsumi/Tandy Cd-ROm to it's controller card. Any help is appreciated...


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2471
  To: BRIAN STARK                              Date: 07/23/93 11:00a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <19 Jul 93  00:32:06>, Brian Stark (1:290/8) writes:
 >If Michael Sells does not take you up on your offer of nix pix 3 + $10,
 >for 7th guest, I will. I have done business with you before, and would be
 >confident enough to send my cd, the same day you send yours. In excellent
 >condition. To make things roll a little quicker, you can call me at
 >515-278-5427, from 9:00am to 3:00pm central time. Or if you prefer you
 >can leave a message in this echo.
Sounds good. I'll send mine as soon as I get an address. You can send yours to
Ryan Denke, 5030 E 19th, Casper, Wy 82609. Thanks!


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2472
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 07/26/93  6:17p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> On 07-24-93  16:28, Ed bantered to Israel about THE 7TH GUEST <=-

 ED> I would be willing to make that trade.  Give me a call at the bellow #
 ED> and we can talk.

I tried to call, but you weren't there. What CD(s) where you thinking of
trading? When I see The 7th Guest advertised it's usualy for around $60.

Israel "Martin" Gomberg
[phone]



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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 2473
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/26/93  8:32p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
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                 *****  Quoting Israel Gomberg to All  *****

 IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if interested.
As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't wish to
"corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable minds.
Thanks in advance.

,\\ark



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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2474
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/26/93  1:00p
Subj: Lost address                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>RW>Am looking for the fellow that I agreed to purchase the Digital Dreams CD
JL>  >from.  I have been awaiting my new set of checks, and can't find your
JL>  >number or address.

JL>If you can't find him, I have one used copy for sale for $20 plus $2.90
JL>shipping.  [phone]
JL>                                                        Jim...

Hey Jim,

Well, might be willing to take you up on it.  Am gonna post my message
one more time, and hopefully I'll hear from him.  Wouldn't want to leave
a deal just hanging like that.

Thanks for the offer, and will keep it in mind if don't find him.

Later,

Robbie Wilkes

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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2475
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/27/93 11:01a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
IG>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
IG>                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

Hey Israel,

Will trade the Volcanoe adult CD for it.  Let me know if you're
interested.

Take care,

Robbie Wilkes
[phone] after 6:00pm EST

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2476
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:32p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
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In a message to Jackie Rogers <07-26-93 07:57> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA> How many Mitsumi have you sold? And what is your technical
IA> back-ground?

Based on the problems it appears you have been causing my firm, I respectfully
request that you not correspond with me.  Thank you for understanding.

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From: PAUL NALEY                             Number: 2477
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93 10:22p
Subj: SR Media Dealings??                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

About a month ago a firm called "SR Media" offered the "Digital Dreams -
The McHenry Collection" ForSale. I sent in the requried payment, but as
of today I still have not received the CD ROM disk from them. I even
tried Directory Assistance and found that this firm is not listed.

The SR Media adverstisement was placed in this echo.

Has anyone had any dealings with this firm and actually received what
they ordered? Also if anyone has a current phone # for SR Media I would
really appreciate the information.

Since this firm is located in Calgary, Alberta Canada does anyone know
how to start formal procedures for Mail Fraud in Canada and who to
contact?

Thank you in advance....

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  8:07a
Subj: Software/Books for Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following software/books for sale:

Ultima VII - The Black Gate. 3.5" disks.                        $28
Ultima VII clue book - Key to the Black Gate                    $ 8
    (have been offered $20 for the above 2 items, which seems
    too cheap... Others?)
Ultima Underworld clue book - Mysteries of the Abyss            $ 7
Ultima VI - The False Prophet. 5.25" disks.                     $23
Energizer Bunny for Windows. Screen saver, etc. 3.5" disks      $ 7
Grammatik 5 for Windows. Both 3.5"/5.25" disks.                 $28

Prices include shipping. All software is in original pkg with all docs, etc.
If you're local to Kansas City, will deduct shipping ($2-3 per item) if you
want to pick up. Leave msg here, or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p
Central time, or leave voice mail).

Will possibly consider trade for Lemmings game, or something nifty on
CD ROM!

- Heather
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2479
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/26/93 11:28p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
  >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
  >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
  >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

Computer Works will sell Night Owls 9 for $29.  Give me a call at
[phone] to place your order.  I ship all orders out 2 Day
Priority Mail.  Be sure to mention this message to get this price.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2480
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 07/26/93 11:30p
Subj: Terri Weigel - Wicked                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >Do you have the cd of teri Weigel pics?
  >I've seen it advertised in the back of pc computing.

How much did they want for it.  Computer Works is selling it for $59.

                                                Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 2481
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  4:32p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll get the money in the mail tomorrow for Adobe Type Manager for Windows.
Thanks for holding it for me.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2482
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/27/93 12:18a
Subj: Re: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90's         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Vince Sorensen <=-

 VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
 VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
 VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
 VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

 LN> Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it
 LN> on our future discs as well-

Any chance of an OS/2 version ??  I can run the DOS or Windows version under
OS/2, but it would be nice to have a native OS/2 version.

... Sex on TV can't hurt you, unless you fall off!
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2483
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 07/27/93  2:28a
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR>             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"

BR>675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &

How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by standard,
limited to 256 colors?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * For a photographer, life is just a bed of poses.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2484
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/27/93  8:32a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
DS>I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
DS>where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the

    Thanks. I've already had a couple other people contact me on this, so
    believe it's sold. If neither of those come through with a purchase,
    I'll get back with you.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2485
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/27/93  8:36a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.
JT>         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose

    Still no word from the other guy. I'll leave him another message to
    let him know that if he doesn't contact me by Saturday, it's sold to
    someone else (you). I'll leave you a message this weekend letting you
    know one way or another.

- Heather
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2486
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 So many of you sent private mail and phone messages requesting that I
 not do away with the "monster", that I really had no choice in the
 matter!  Here is our updated list, with several new titles, and as
 always - the lowest possible pricing.  Of course our Bottom-Line
 price guarantee is still in effect:  If you find a lower advertised
 price in this echo on any item we stock, we'll beat it by 5%.  (No
 closeouts please)  Let Starvector be your "BOTTOM LINE PRICING LEADER".

 You folks wanted it, so here it is . . . . .

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................52.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....33.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentaminoes...................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2487
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2488
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM DISCOUNTS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Busty Babes 3.0 (New!)........35.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Girls of Vivid (New!).........45.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    X-Treme (New!)................36.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2489
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>Well, thanks for reply, but I am waiting to hear from someone who said he
can
MW>sell it for 25.00:)....I am sure you will understand...

Manny,

As we advertise, we'll beat any legit ad in here by 5%.  Gimme a call!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2490
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
JH>        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
JH>        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
JH>        any help I can get.

No longer carry the Barney Bear CD's because of the poor quality.
Have Arthur's Teacher Trouble at $29.  Just Grandma & Me is $42.

Call if I can be of any further help to you.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 2491
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/27/93 11:36a
Subj: Electricity & Magnetism Disk            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I read a review of it in a maglet called "The CD-ROM Reporter", July?Aug 1993.

According to the review it was written by Bob Gomersall and has a "very Eurpean
flair" (whatever that is).  The review says it is aimed at junior and senior
high school students in mind.

Apparently, you can review a series of science lessons or answer worksheets,
and there is narrative, text, animation and photos.

I got no information out of the article as to specifically what topics were
covered by the lessons.

Hope this helps.  So, is anyone out there selling the durn thing?


Bob.



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From: HAROLD WEISS                           Number: 2492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  2:05p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like recommendations and/or Prices for CD's (Shareware and GIF) that
are BBS ready to interface with RemoteAccess in a Files.BBS format.  Thank
you.

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From: HAROLD WEISS                           Number: 2493
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  2:15p
Subj: Mailing List                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To any Vendors: WE HAVE MONEY ! :)

Please send us a current catalog so we can buy from you.

Harold Weiss
1910 Marlen
Pasadena, Tx 77502

Looking for BBS ready cd's especially, With descriptions in FILES.BBS format.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2494
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  4:52p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You sent this to the wrong guy. I think you meant for Doug to get this
request.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2495
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/27/93  4:54p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I think I'll wait until you can tell me a bit more about them. Thanks.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2496
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  5:13p
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

R-r-r-r-r-oger! I'm the patient sort.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 2497
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/26/93 12:45p
Subj: Cd'S Shipping To Canada?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 VS> Why don't you just order from us, here in Canada? Did you know that
 VS> 30% of the adult discs in the market are actually pressed in Quebec?
 VS> Busty Babes & Southern Beauties are two I've got sitting in front of
 VS> me right now with MADE IN CANADA stickers on them. I can often get them
 VS> drop-shipped directly from the factory, without them crossing a single
 VS> international border. Plus, you can get anything I do get from the
 VS> states at prices similar to what you're already paying in the states
 VS> *WITHOUT* the delay, without the customs risk, and without the
 VS> postal/courier surcharges. For example, Hot Pix 3 is $40 Canadian, GST
 VS> Included, rather than $29.95 US (after 1.30 exchange & 7% GST becomes
 VS> $41 Canadian...sample price picked out of a "SUMMER SPECTACULAR
 VS> BLOWOUT" message I read in this echo today).

 VS> Give us a call - you won't regret it!

 VS> Vince
 VS> 306-789-4654 Voice
 VS> 306-789-8690 Fax
 VS> 306-789-8682 BBS

        Would you have an address you could post so I can write and get a
list of the CD's you have availible along with a price list as well?


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2498
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  9:50a
Subj: Netware PD/Shareware CD-ROM             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2499
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/26/93  7:26a
Subj: Dork.Dork.Dork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK> BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????

MK>    It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unless
MK>    you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
MK>    hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Most
MK>    individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are generally
MK>    better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those who do
MK>    not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.

A person may be educated and also a stuck-up jerk.  Education
comes to open minds.

Are you suggesting that if a person is unable to meet your
education threshold criteria, that they should not participate
in the same echos as you?

I'll bet the universe revolves around you, eh?

MK>    I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by any
MK>    chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation out
MK>    there at cocktail parties.

He's from Florida, as anyone who could read his originline might
determine.

MK> * Origin: The Outland Cary,N.C. [phone] 1:151/147 (1:151/147.0)

While you were busy making regional stereotypes your sysop got
drunk at his still and put his node number in the origin twice.

 * SLMR 2.1 *

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2500
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/26/93  7:26a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EC> EB> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

EC>        I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
EC> 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.

I haven't seen the demo, but the actual game worked fine in my
CDR-2500 (Hitachi, 800ms.  Depending on detail, full-color video
may have paused every 20-30 seconds for about a second to gather
more data, but it didn't detract from the game, and the game
didn't crash.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2501
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 07/26/93  2:21a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DN>Can you tell me what the maximum capacity CD-ROM this drive can handle.  I'm
DN>having a problem with mine (the one I purchased from you). I'm getting the
DN>following error:
DN>"File read/write error-drive may be open or disk unformatted"

Don, I have a Toshiba 3401 and according to the manual, it can read
690/788 MB on a CD.  I have a CD that is 614MB in size and I get the
same error message...  The problem might be the drivers or something.

Anyone want to guess?


 * OLX 2.1 TD * All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2502
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/27/93  8:19p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly
 BJ> debates over who has

I won't.  Just picking at Mike to have some fun with him for being awrny.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2503
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  8:20p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
 MS> Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff"
 MS> any time you see fit.
 MS> If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble
 MS> proving it.  Go ahead
 MS> and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

Hehe.  No thanks Mike.  They are one of my slowest sellers.  I don't need a
horse in this race <g>.  Some of their discs are ok, but some are not that
great, such as the considerable amount of dupes on Clip Art goliath, but for
the money, dollar for dollar, it is not a waste of money at all.
Just having some fun with ya.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2504
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  8:50p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and
 MS> Amateur Models, both of
 MS> which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

That's what the author claims I believe on the CD.  Blaine was the producer I
believe....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2505
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/27/93  8:52p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL> Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
 JL> please tell me the soonest you could send it to me
 JL> in VA...I had ordered
 JL> one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
 JL> cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

Who did you order it from?  We can match any ad posted here in the echo.  We
can also deliver.  Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order the NOPV9.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2506
  To: DAVID PATTERSON                          Date: 07/27/93  8:54p
Subj: CDROM_SALE Antics                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DP> WHAT! He send your disk BACK! So...you are out some postage?
 DP> Why has the whole world had to read or skip through this junk
 DP> because of a dollar or 2 ?
 DP> PLEASE give everyone a break.
 DP> Thanks

That is a real risk when you do COD also.  I had a lady in Alabama stiff me for
one that came back today and now I'm out over $8 and this guy is crying about
$2?  It is just a chance you take.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2507
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/27/93  8:56p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: 07/29/93  6:49a                       Private: No

 TH> OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.

 TH> tim
 TH> moderator

Was just curious if you are going to implement the new rules that Bob has
posted in the CDROM echo....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2508
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  8:57p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JH>         I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education.
 JH>         Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
 JH>         Or Grandma and Me?

We stock the Barney Bears and Just Grandma and me....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2509
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/27/93  9:05p
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a
 JR> vendor who shows their
 JR> dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it
 JR> the President or anyone
 JR> else for that Matter..

You democrats are all alike <G D&R>.

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 2510
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  1:00a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>MB>you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much,
MS>MB>caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal
MS>Geez, I'LL send you the three bucks if you'll just stuff a sock in it!
         ^^^^
MS>.\\ike

  Mike- I won't write any of those whiney little annoying messages.If you
  send me three bucks also.      Thanks,       Ron.
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 2511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 10:39p
Subj: JemDisk                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the latest release of
JemDisk..Cd if so please post here...Been looking all over for a deal
for a sysop, need something with about 7000 files on it, anything less
forget it..also must be at reasonalble priced...perfer lots of gif
files, also I have a copy of Wildcat Gold CD-Rom will be willing to
trade for a good adult cd-rom disk..or even make me an offer..see ya
around the net..Please reply if you are seriously interested in this
disk...or if you can guide me in the right direction for a good
shareware BBS ready cd-rom disk...

 * WCE 1.10/2094 * -> Have fun.  Keep it under 80MPH and drink milk.

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From: CRAIG CURRY                            Number: 2512
  To: LARISSA KOHLER                           Date: 07/27/93 10:44p
Subj: Walnut Creek Games CDROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Larissa,

They've been putting off my order too. I am looking forward to the CD
"if" it ever ships. Reminds me of some hardware venders I know... <g>.

I guesse I will keep my order standing, but I'm wondering if I shouldn't
get another CD in the mean time.

Take care,

         Craig Curry
         Parkersburg, WV

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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 2513
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/27/93  6:07a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

S9>> michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to install
S9>> and it works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under os/2.

 MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.

 MK> 205-837-5053
I am interested!  How much?







Cam Lirondelle

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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(1:134/2001)
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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 2514
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  6:07a
Subj: cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

wanted good multispin cdrom that will work with a future domain scsi
controller

Cam Lirondelle

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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(1:134/2001)
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2515
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  3:45a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                 ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or
pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and
illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Four Star Enterprises
517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer
Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 2516
  To: MODERATOR                                Date: 07/26/93  4:33p
Subj: BUBBA!!!!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do we have to listen about this CRAP! for the next year or so?
I for one am getting sick of it.
These messages are ALL of topic and do not belong in this echo.
Please put an end to it!
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From: HORHAY                                 Number: 2517
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93 12:53p
Subj: gif cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for some Cd's with adult gif images new or used.Please write
back if you have any info.

                          thanx


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From: MIKE SHEPARD                           Number: 2518
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/27/93 10:56p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out
 JR> there on the market. HOWEVER, industry sources have
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with their
 JR> controller card, and have corrected it.


Hello Jackie,
 Have you a number for them so if they do have a fix we with these things can
try to get them fixed so we can keep those disc's you've just sold us??
  Mike


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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 2519
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/26/93  6:42p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a Message From: Doug Carpenter  To: All  Dated: 07-19-93 at: 23:22
DC--> *** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY
DC--> JULY 27 ***
DC--> *** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours)
DC--> 615-339-0235 ***
DC-->
DC--> Wing Commander/Ultima 6 (Discontinued-get it while you
DC--> can)........23.95
DC--> American Business Phone Book..17.95 Software Vault #2 (ALL
DC--> '93!)...19.95
DC--> X11R5-GNU.....................19.95 ** Buy 4 Vivid Titles
DC--> at 44.95 each
DC--> Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........34.95 and receive your
DC--> choice of 1 Free:
DC--> DR. DOS v6.0 (floppy).........24.95 Moving Fantasies,
DC--> Visual Fantasies,
DC--> Hobbes OS/2...................14.95 Adult Reference
DC--> Library, Physical
DC--> Source Code...................19.95 Therapy, or Hot Pix
DC--> v4.0.

Finally, after reading for 10 minutes......something that has to do with the
selling of CD-ROMs!  THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!     ...John

and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set up
for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

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From: GLENN JONES                            Number: 2520
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 10:25p
Subj: CD Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could somone help me?  What do I look for in a CD-ROM?  What I'm looking for
is a internal CD-ROM.  Speed, KBytes/Second, Speed????

I'm SO CONFUSED!!!

Thanks,
Glenn

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 2521
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/27/93  3:49a
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Panasonic 501B $300
-> Chinon 535-CDS $430

Ismail, what are the Access and kb/transfer times on these
two drives?, I may be interested, especially in the Chinon.

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 2522
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/27/93  7:49a
Subj: Scsi cdrom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure
-> with power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O,
-> and 90-
-> 240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.
->
-> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Michael....  Would you care to work up a trade for one of the following
drives???  I have several things to trade...  1x9 70ns SIMMS (4megs
total); I have a VERY nice 250 watt UPS that has a NEW battery, Also
have a 130MB Seagate hdd that works flawlessly, with NO errors.
Could also come up with a little cash....

        Todd

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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2523
  To: DONALD MACKAY                            Date: 07/26/93 11:46p
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

q

DM> Can anyone please give me some prices on CD caddies. Most of the
DM> pricesup here north of the 49th are really quite outrageous.

DM> thanks

CMSI in Toronto, Canada sells CD Caddies for $6.00 CAD.  Phone [phone].
They take 24 Hour Quotesor Orders.
I hope that's somewhat helpful.
                                                          Karel
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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 2524
  To: ALL CD VENDORS                           Date: 07/27/93  7:25a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I, like many others, like to do business via fax. I have called several of the
fax numbers listed by vendors in this echo and I have noticed the following:
1) Many vendors use faxmodems. It allows them to send/receive faxes and operate
a BBS at the same time.

2) Some vendors use the faxmodems mentioned above, but configure them to
send/receive faxes at certain hours and operate the BBS the rest of the time.

3) I use a Panasonic KXF-110 G3 fax machine

There is only one problem with this.

FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.
Actually, most work very well sending out a fax. But, that doesn't help me.

On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and am
told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press your
SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am to
6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but many fax
machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated line is a tax
writeoff.

In the short-term, vendors should state if they use faxmodems and/or they run a
BBS on the same line and/or do not receive faxes and/or only accept faxes
during certain hours. It will make my life easier.

Don

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2525
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/27/93  4:13p
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DD> FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.

ZyXEL's Do!

CJK

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2526
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both
of
TW>MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

TW>You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
TW>DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

Got ya down Terry.  BTW, it's both for $65, not $69.  My typo.

Yes, I did receive the other CD, and I'll apply the credit to this order.
Thanks again for the order!

BTW, When can I come down to gatorland and hold a boom mike or -anything-
on your next movie project?  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2527
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
TW>Send me this one, too, ok?

Gotcha.

TW>MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities,
debuggers
TW>And this one...

Gotcha again.

TW>MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
TW>And this one...

And again.

They'll be strapped to the belly of a DC-3 tomorrow!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2528
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR>I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about their
DR>political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big
house,
DR>real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
DR>Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to
mark
DR>it as a comedy, though.  ;-)

Come on Dave, quit riding the fence.  Take a position!!   8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2529
  To: MIKE FURST                               Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Buy 3 Get A Powerpak Fre                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MF>MS>               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
MF>  >  *-----------------------------------*
*--------------------------*
MF>  >  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |
|
MF>  >  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0
|
MF>  >  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION
|
MF>  >  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |
|
MF>  >  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT
|
MF>  >  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!
|
MF>  >  *-------------------------| $89 |---*
*--------------------------*
MF>  >                            *-----*

MF>  I was just browsing the CD-ROM echo and noticed your getting it from
MF>all sides!!! So what do I say? Damn the Torpedoes! Use the
MF>Photon's..they do more damage!!

He He.  Let's just say I'm in my element when there is controversy in the
"air".  8)  Next time I will try the Photons, but NOT at close range.  8)

MF> Anyway, I was wondering if you plan to offer something like above with
MF>one of the CD's being Digital Dreams instead ? I'd also appreciate a
MF>catalog if you have any and I could get copies out in the Las Vegas area
MF>(friends....you know the type.....<g>).

For you Mike, I'll substitute Digital Dreams for any of the three, at
the same price.  Just say the word and they're yours!  Catalog's on
the way.

Later,

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2530
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $95                      $85


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $55                  $59                $65


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $55                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2531
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
                            *-----*

 Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
 low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
 absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2532
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 07/27/93  5:29p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > IG> 1.Loom
 > IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island
 >
 > Isreal-
 >
 > Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for
 > the above.


Sorry, but I can't help you there. I just wanted to trade them.



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2533
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 07/27/93  7:23a
Subj: Your order                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dick, I need your phone number........
===
 * RM 1.0 00391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 2534
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/28/93 11:21a
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

===================================================================
   ------------------------------------------------------------------

    JP>Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with
435 ms JP>access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Yes there is!
JP>Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Yes there is and it is called "The Norton Speedcache+ for dos and
windows. Just as an example I had been using Coreldrw 3.o and upgraded
to the 4.0 Version and liking Fonts I made the mistake of installing all
750 of Version 4.0 fonts. Needless to say Coreldrw was written to be
run inside of windows. Prior to installing the Norton speedcache+ on my
486/33 the elapsed time it took to open windows from the time I typed
win and hit the enter key till I got the windows program manager with
all of my various icons displayed on the crt was 3:35 what seemed like a
lifetime. well I installed nCache and the reduced the 3:35 to 1:05 SEC,
quite a remakable improvement approx a 66% increase in accesing speed.
then on this echo I read about "The Norton Speedcache+" and proceeded to
buy same. It self installs and litterly cashes everyting on your system,
CDROM, Hard Drive, Dos, Windows. when it was Installed instead of"
"NCACHE" the same accesstime dropped to :53 seconds so I would have to
say it indeed does cut the accesstime. I do not have a benchmark program
to time the info retrevial of info from the CDROM so I can only assume
that it has speeded it up also, By the way I am running two Stacked(2.0)
drives and it (Norton Speedcache+) says they are not cached but that is
where windows 3.1 is installed along with all other applications except
\Dos \Stacker who reside on the unstacked portion of the C:(Bootable
Disk drive) but to speed windows up that much I know It does..Hope this
rambling helps .......Jack

 * SLMR 2.0 #1626 * I could have had a V8, But got a GOLDWING instead!!


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  7:20a
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-PowerBox $12 (General Shareware)
CD-WinBox $12 (Windows Shareware)

If you are interested, you can order from:

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd. Tacoma, WA 98409
TEL [phone] or 1-800-373-0628
FAX [phone] or 1-800-277-5179

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2536
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/25/93 12:55a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Kevin,
 Allways try to do my best, Have a good one and thanks for the kind
words.

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2537
  To: BOB HAY                                  Date: 07/24/93  7:24a
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BH>I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and
BH>Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing and ordering information

I can't help you, but as an astrophysics major I'm interested in what this
might be.  What is it?

 * SLMR 2.1 *

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2538
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:27p
Subj: Jem Disk Trade-In Special               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Did you ever purchase a CD-Rom disc only to find it didn't meet your needs
at all?  You know the one, all it does is sit on the shelf behind old
Computer books and empty Coke cans collecting dust!

Well here's your chance to TRADE it in and get a shiny new copy of Jem Disc
instead at very little cost to you.  Jem Disc was a hot seller last year
and it's file collection stands the test of time (especially if your a
sysop).  There's over 500MB of great files in 59 categories.  The disc
contains FILES.BBS support and there is a plug & play ROMbrain database
available.

For a limited time if you send us an unwanted computer CD-Rom disc and just
$14.95 we'll ship you a copy of Jem Disc!  Shipping & Handling is free.

FREQ the magic name JEMTRADE from 1:203/49 or call 916-921-9949 and download
the files from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the prompt).

(If you are interested in ordering Jem Disc but have nothing to trade FREQ
the file JEMDISC instead - the price is $19.95 plus S&H).


Thanks!

Michael Crosson
Jewel Distributing



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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2539
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:37p
Subj: Jem Disc Descriptions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just a quick note to Jem Disc customers -

The latest Jem Disc FILES.BBS descriptions are available as JEMFILES.ZIP.
As time permits I improve and enhance them so it's worth your while to FREQ
them every so often.

Many of you will be happy to know that I recently finished describing ALL
700+ .GIF files in great detail.

FREQ JEMFILES.ZIP from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds (about 250k) or call
916-921-9949 and download them from my logon matrix (enter JEM).

Thanks! - Michael Crosson

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2540
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/25/93  2:06p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199

    Mitsumi's sell for about $190 new from any of the big mail order
places, Midwest, DC, Computability.  Look 'em up in the Computer Shopper.

Eric


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2541
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  5:02p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Jul 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Doug Carpenter...

 BJ>  MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<
 BJ>
 BJ>  DC> Hogwash.
 BJ>
 BJ>
 BJ> Doug:
 BJ>
 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who
 BJ> has
 BJ> the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
 BJ> customers. (Pretty Please???)
 BJ>
BJ>  * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | [phone] |
 BJ> (1:106/30.0)
 BJ> 209/209
 BJ> 10 12 19
        I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education.
        Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
        Or Grandma and Me?
        I Would appreciate any info you can send my way.


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2542
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93  5:08p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to All...

 MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
 MS>                                 pg. 1 of 2
 MS>
 MS>    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 MS> popular
 MS>                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 MS>
 MS> TITLES INCLUDE:
 MS>
        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
        any help I can get.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2543
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

DC>Hogwash.

Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fit.
If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go ahead
and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2544
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

Great!  Got 'em in stock Dave!

z u later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2545
  To: STEVE ELLIOTT                            Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SE>One quick question, do you ship COD?

Affirmative Steve.  Give me a call anytime.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2546
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal
BJ>as last time)

Let me stock up a little first.  Hard to keep these new ones in!  8)

.\\ike

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2547
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there I am interested in the:

HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
HK->  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel
HK->case &
HK->docs,
HK->  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive
HK->reqd.  $28

I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the
money order ro whatever.

                                Darren Sellner

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 2548
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  3:47p
Subj: CD Library                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've got a CD Game Library that came bundled with my system for sale.

I'm asking $50.00 for the library which includes:

Chessmaster 3000
Monkey Island
Stellar 7
Loom

Also have the following CD's for sale:

Time Table of History (Science & Innovation)  $20.00

US & World Atlas  $25.00

Will consider reasonable offers. Trades only if local.

Thanks.....Bob


... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live from Central Texas...."
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2549
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have
>>    fair prices. I bought my rom and a disk from you and had a
>>    little trouble setting it up but you helped me out over the
>>    phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo

Always nice to hear from one of our many happy customers !!

I think you'll enjoy our NEW CATALOGUE as well. You'll be getting it
in the mail very soon as well as our customer appreciation catalogue
also. A LOT OF SUPER LOW PRICED cd's in this one, so have your
Visa/MasterCard ready.....grin !!

Chat with you soon......

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2550
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: ORDER REC'D                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using
>>    it for about 6 months and have found the search engine to be
>>    VERY buggy. Some towns in the database will not be found by
>>    name but can be found by zip code. There are also GAPING holes
>>    in the data for example it finds only two pawn shops in
>>    Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and Florida.

>>    It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are
>>    aware of its short comings.

>>    Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is
>>    advertised to do.

James, there is and it's called " Phone Disk USA " !! Much better and
offers a more up to date database as well.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to
assist you further.

BTW: Yes..both versions are in stock.

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2551
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: RED HOT SUMMER                          Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2553
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2554
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/52                Date: 07/25/93  6:59p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

S9> actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401
S9> could be put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have
S9> to put more hardrive in my "other" computer and that means no place
S9> insdie for the cd. it needs to go external, but i'm not keen on on
S9> the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got an external from you,
S9> could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

Yes, you could.  Rod Jensen has made the arrangements.

S9> btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one
S9> alwyas hears that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the
S9> south - well, your town and mine seem to be pretty comparable on
S9> supermarket ads and rent.

My area has a higher cost of living than some of the other areas of the
south.  Probably because of the higher concentration of engineers around
the Hewlett Packard, Morton-Thiokol, Marshall Space Flight Center,
Lockheed, Toshiba, Pioneer, Chrysler, Teledyne-Brown, Intergraph, and the
list goes on.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2555
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/26/93  1:11a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD.
For More Info contact:

Eric Bravick
14014 Halstead Ct. Apt #408
Tampa, FL. 33613

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2556
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  6:25a
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053




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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 2557
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  3:45p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG> 1.Loom
IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island

Isreal-

Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for the above.
Reply here or Netmail. -Thank

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 2558
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/25/93  8:22a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Edward!

Friday July 23 1993 12:56, Edward Crouser wrote to Tony Mace:

 EC>         How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.

Sorry, already found a SCSI Toshiba one for my PAS16....

Tony

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 2559
  To: DISK VENDORS                             Date: 07/20/93  8:53p
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Please send a catalog to:


... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with 435 ms
access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think it said
something about the trial period expired.

If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on how you
like it...



Thanks in advance.




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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2561
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: ENCYLCLOPEDIA                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in purchasing a Multi-Media Encyclopedia, I would
prefer Windows MPC.

I noticed that Compton's has "Interactive", "MM" and "MPC" versions.
What are the differences feature wise between each???

I know MM is DOS and MPC is Windows.  Is Interactive Windows also??
Any added features in one version over the others?

Also noticed the Grolier's has multiple versions.

Which do you think is better?  And why?




Thanks in advance for your help.  Trying to decide which one to buy.





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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2562
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:55a
Subj: Re: DICT & LANG                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-01-93 22:08> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> It's going out to you today, along with the $6 shareware CD, and Oink
MS> 2 (for review).

What's Oink 2?  We haven't seen that one yet.  Or has my brother been hiding
the new smut stuff from me?  <grin>

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2563
  To: RICK MEENAN                              Date: 07/25/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Looking For a cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-12-93 15:25> Rick Meenan wrote:

RM> I've been looking for a CD-ROM containing GIF photos of porno stars.
RM> I'm pretty new at this so don't know what's out there that may have
RM> the material I'm looking for.  Therefore, anyone selling a CD-ROM(s) they
RM> think might be of help drop me a line.  I'd be interested in getting
RM> catalogs from anyone thinking they have what I'm looking for.  Let me
RM> know what's out there guys!

There are several adult titles available on the market.  Most of them
duplicate each other to a large degree.  I personally recommend finding a
reputable publisher, and sticking with them.  Lee Noga's discs are top-notch
and she's a regular participant here in the echos.  Look for Ecstasy Hot Pics
or Busty Babes at a dealer near you.  Of course, we stock both of them, and
you can give us a call at [phone] or [phone] for more
information.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2564
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/25/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jeff Jenkins <07-11-93 21:58> J.p. Ladner wrote:

JL> I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL> software for only $200 ???

The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new for as low as $175
if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I personally
don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc returned to me as
defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the customer to inquire about
the type of drive they're using, and they ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the
Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out there on the market.
HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with
their controller card, and have corrected it.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2565
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: CD ROM...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-13-93 17:07> Joe Stevens wrote:

JS> I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked at
JS> several models... the one whick is the least expensive and still
JS> offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does anyone out there
JS> have one and do you know if it is any good?  Also... I have been told
JS> it only has an 8 bit interface card... not a 16 bit.  What is the
JS> advantage to a 16 bit interface?

If you decide to go with the Mitsumi, make sure you get one of the "newer"
ones with 350ms access time, and a 16-bit controller.  The 16-bit controller
allows you more configuration options, which come in handy on a "busy" system.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2566
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 07/25/93 11:18a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-12-93 04:32> Jesse Schmelzer wrote:

JS> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
JS> order.

I may know someone who can fix you up:

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2567
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 07/25/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: MS BOOKSHELF '93 MPC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-10-93 21:30> Keith Sheehan wrote:

KS> Does any CD Distributer that advertises thier products on this echo
KS> have the 1993 edition of the Microsoft Bookshelf (MPC Version) for
KS> less than $129 that I've seen it for in such places as Elek-Tek &
KS> Comp USA. I was intereted in purchasing this disk but I don't want to
KS> spend on $129 on an electronic version of some books I already have!
KS> I can justify looking up things in the books for that price.

Give us a call, and I'm sure we can save you some serious money on that title.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2568
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/25/93  3:20p
Subj: Re: Winbox CD Problem                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-21-93 21:46> Keith Ritchie wrote:

KR>  I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a
KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that
KR> is nowhere to be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the
KR> correct info. Help... it seems like a good CD from the Dir listing
KR> but it is worthless if you can't access it.

Call your dealer and ask for the "fix."  There is a slight problem with the
interface on some of the discs out there.  The fix is available from our BBS,
too.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2569
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 07/25/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: Windows                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Dave Reed <07-21-93 06:46> Philip Polstra wrote:

PP>  DR> Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention
PP>  DR> that you saw the ad in FidoNet, because these discs are regularly
PP>  DR> sold for $34 each.
PP>
PP> Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too
PP> ago.

I set the prices, based on what I pay for the discs.  When I'm able to secure
better pricing, I pass that along to the customer.  You just happened to
purchase from the end of our previous inventory.  David charges what I tell
him to charge.  :-)

Next time you order, mention this, and I'm pretty sure we can give you a
discount on your next purchase to make up for the difference.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2570
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/25/93  3:26p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-19-93 17:03> Manny Wise wrote:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can
MW> be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

Yes, sir.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2571
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/25/93  3:30p
Subj: Re: cd's shipping to cana               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/29/93  7:29a                       Private: No

In a message to Kirk Rawnsley <07-23-93 06:28> Tim Helton wrote:

TH> Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
TH> 500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters
TH> the country.

I think it's more like 500 people at EACH POINT of entry into Canada!  :-)

Jackie

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2572
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:56p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*********************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
************************      Adult Titles      *********************
*********************************************************************

101 Positions, Part 1        $45     My First Time (Things Change)$50
101 Positions, Part 2        $45     My Private Collection, Vol 1 $33
Adult Palate                 $38     My Private Collection, Vol 2 $33
Adult Reference Library      $30     Night Watch Interactive      $49
After Dark Trilogy           $45     PC-PIX, Vol 1                $33
All Beauties                 $28     PC-PIX, Vol 2                $33
Amateur Models               $37     PC-PIX, Vol 3                $33
Animation Fantasies v1.0     $33     Physical Therapy             $23
Asian Ladies                 $33     Porkware, Vol 1              $33
Best of Vivid Clips          $45     Porkware, Vol 2              $33
Busty Babes                  $29     Private Pictures             $33
Busty Babes v3               $35     Rimfire XXX Mini-Movies      $44
Club Expose                  $46     Seedy Movies Disc            $42
Digital Dancing              $49     Seedy Rom v1                 $27
Digital Dreams               $32     Seedy Rom v2                 $27
Dirty Talk                   $45     Seedy Rom v3                 $27
Doors of Passion             $45     Seedy Rom v4                 $27
Ecstacy Hot Pics             $38     Seedy Rom v5                 $27
Erotic Encounters            $33     Seedy Rom v6                 $27
GBL (Gay, Bi and Lesbian)    $33     Seedy Rom v7 (Seventh Heaven)$27
Giffy Gold                   $33     Seymore Butts                $49
Girls of Vivid               $40     Smutware                     $32
Girls of Vivid, Vol 2        $40     So Much StareWARE            $33
Hidden Obsessions            $49     Southern Beauties            $33
Hot Pix, Vol 2               $32     Storm 1                      $27
Hot Pix, Vol 3               $32     Storm 2                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 4               $32     Storm 3                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 5               $32     Swimwear '93                 $30
House of Dreams              $49     Visual Fantasies             $28
House of Sleeping Beauties   $44     Volcano                      $32
Kama Sutra                   $69     Wicked                       $58
Lovely Ladies                $33     Women of Venus               $34
Manpower                     $33     X-Treme                      $32
Moving Fantasies             $27     XXX Extreme                  $33

*********************************************************************
*****************  Credit Card and COD Orders Welcome  **************
*********************************************************************

       CD-ROM International             [phone]  (Orders)
       108 4th Ave SW                   [phone]  (Voice)
       PO Box 723                       [phone]  (BBS/Fax)
       Ephrata WA 98823-0723            1:344/79 (FidoNet)

     Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
*********************************************************************


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2573
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93  7:34a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yep, Lee's sent me a copy of BB3. Haven't had the cjance to go through it
thoroughly yet, but "Showoff" looks very interesting. You can expect a
thorough DD-like review of it shortly. (And thanks for the kind words!)

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2574
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Christian Smith to All <=-

 CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF
 CS> anyone knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it.

Are you looking for a map of every street or a CrissCross Directory type of
thing?  If you're looking for the directory type of thing, so am I.  I think
one of the national phone books on CD might do the trick!.

                        Keith Saturn.

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2575
  To: ANDREW HUIGE                             Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew Huige to All <=-

 AH> *All,
 AH> I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a
 AH> disk to  start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can

Why settle for 450 files? I used the Simtel20 CD on my BBS and that had over
7500 files!  Simtel@0 CDs  can be ordered at 1-800-786-9907.  I don't work
for them, I'm just satisfied with what they had to offer!  You can also try
some of the vendor's in this echo.

                        Keith Saturn.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:16p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

First, many thanks to "Lady Lee" (Noga) of Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
for sending me a copy of "Busty Babes Volume #1 Release 3.0" (BB3) for
review.

Secondly, this review will follow the format, style, and content
paradigms that were used in my reviews of "Digital Dreams" (Ero Tek) and
"Pork Ware I" inasmuch as there will be three parts: Statistics,
Operations, and Visual.  I will use the same criteria as I outlined in my
previous descriptions of those parts.

Thirdly, having learned that FidoNet can tolerate reasonably long posts,
I'll use only three messages for this review, one for each of the parts
named above.

Finally, remember, WHAT FOLLOWS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION.  While I try
very hard to be as objective as possible in writing these reviews,
(objectivity is part of what I do to satisfy Maslow), individual
preferences, both mine and yours, will always introduce some level of
subjectivity, particularly in the operations and visual parts.  All set?
Here we go.....

Statistics
==========

This section focuses on numerical data relative to the physical contents
of the CD.

Let me begin by stating that measuring the exact number of files on a CD
isn't as simple as it may sound, nor all that important.  Most CDs these
days have thousands of files on them, particularly image CDs and
shareware CDs.  While one might assume that a simple DIR would suffice,
it won't.  First, DIR will count the . and .. subdirectory "files" (note:
these have been taken into account in the figures below).  Secondly, even
when using DIR with a "qualifier" like *.GIF, a directory may show files
that aren't actually there, or are corrupted in some way that makes them
useless and therefore might as well not be there.  Finally, what my
CD-ROM drive can read, yours may not, and vice-versa.  Accordingly, when
I give various counts and sizes and you subsequently find that your stats
don't EXACTLY agree with mine, don't take it too hard.

BB3 disclosed a count of 2663 GIF files (not counting the catalog
files - more on those later) totaling 499 Mb.  That yields an
average byte size of 187 Kb per GIF which is consistent with the
observation that most of the GIFs are either 800x600 or 640x480 in
resolution and most occupy relatively large portions of the screen when
displayed normally.  All told, the CD disclosed 3278 files occupying 528
Mb.  The difference of 615 files is accounted for by the 200 catalog GIF
files and by the utilities and other programs included on the CD.

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins", at least as far as the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name:
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different
directories as their "image mates".

Operations to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:17p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Visual
======

This part of the review focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery
as judged by this reviewer.  Accordingly, it is more subjective than
either of the two preceding parts. and should be taken as such.

Like its forebearers, BB3 is a full-blown X-rated CD.  Some of its images
are as raw as raw legally gets.  It's worth noting that a large number of
the scans are R-rated in that, outside of exhibitionism, no sexual
activity is depicted at all.  This is primarily true of the "BUSTYn"
directories (0 <= n <= 6).

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins", at least as far as credits for the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name:
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different
directories as their "image mates".  There may be other pairs, but I
didn't detect them with my computer-aided processes.

Like it predecessors, BB3's images are by and large quite good.
Certainly they are on a par with contemporary releases.  Most images are
either 640x480 or 800x600 in resolution.  The scans are generally sharp
and professional looking in appearance.  If you already have one or two
of the more popular adult image CDs, (e.g. Ecstasy, FAO, Seedy ROM, etc.)
you'll feel right at home with the quality of BB3's pictures.

As previously mentioned, BB3's directory structure is an improvement over
BB1 and BB2, IMHO.  In addition, there are some scans that aren't in
either of the predecessor volumes - not enough to warrant purchase solely
based on that fact, but nice lagniappe if you're going to buy the disk
anyway.  Finally, there's a truly new directory in that all of its images
(some 115 of them) are definitely not in either BB1 or BB2.  That is the
"MICHELLA" directory and it's contents are exclusively scans of a lady by
that name.  These scans are soft and generally dark.  They're pleasant
enough; mostly "R to hard R" and frequently with an unnamed lady friend
in tender-looking poses.  If I had to chose a single word, on the whole
(no pun intended) I'd call them artistic.

In sum, if you're looking for an adult CD with a variety of subject
matter, BB3 would be a good choice.  If you're a true collector, you'll
probably want BB3 to complete the set; I'm sure FLD's not planning a Rel.
4.0 - there'd be no point to it.  Release 1.0 is already a collector's
item;  Release 2.0 doesn't surrender anything meaningful to Release 3.0
in image content; Release 3.0's raison d'etre, outside of some mea culpa
rapair work, is SO.  There's just no more mileage in this collection.

So, Lee, what'cha got up your sleeves for us next?  Whatever it is, make
sure SO hangs in there!
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2578
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/25/93 11:26p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to All <07/25/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> *********************************************************************
JR> ************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
JR> ************************      Adult Titles      *********************
JR> *********************************************************************


JR>      Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
JR> *********************************************************************

Nice prices...........

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

John

 * WCE 1.10/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 2579
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93  9:04p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PC> The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable
 PC> media that one supposedly drops into the start-up
 PC> drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does
 PC> not help me any.  Is this just for things like
 PC> Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?
 PC> So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?
Yes, you need the Xetec, or another such as AsimWare (my personal preference),
file system to get the CDROM to work w/the Amiga.  Either of these will also
let you emulate a CDTV, enabling you to run CDTV disks (please note, neither
gives you 100% compatibility to run all CDTV disks).  Good luck, and have fun!
-Tami

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2580
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  9:33a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose
alone and I wouldn't buy Ice cream with that money, in this heat. Tnxx.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2581
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 07/25/93  7:47a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR AD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 23 Jul 93  16:39:50, I heard Jerry Gerolymatos shout to Kevin Plummer:

JG> I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't hav
JG> any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.

Well, I would have rathered traded for it, But...  The Disk is like brand New,
I think it was used maybe 6 or 7 times, I put it On-Line for my users, and
they really didn't use it, Soooo, I want to get another disk.  So how about
$28.00 and you pay shipping ???


                   ......|<evin

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From: EARL HARSHBARGER                       Number: 2582
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/16/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Reply to msg originally in CDROM For Sale (Fido)

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Michael Mulcahy <=-

 MM> I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my  children
 MM> can utilize as a good reference for school.  I have  heard  that

 TB> I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia"
 TB> for $69.  This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.  It includes

 I can vouch for the Grolier Encyclopedia.  We received as part of a package
 that came with a computer we purchased for our school.  It is so easy to
 use.  The students love it.  It (the CD) is much cheaper than buying the
 hardcopy set and it easier to purchase a new edition every couple of years.
 You might be able to find a better price than the above, I think I saw it
 for as low as $49.  It is a great package for the price.

 Hope this helps.

 --Earl


... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2583
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 10:05a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-24-93 06:53> Bob Jackson wrote:


BJ>> Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.

Great--Remember it is still Volumn 1 but release/version 3.0 of that volumn!
Don't want the user's to think it is Vol III--

Thanks !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2584
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93 10:29a
Subj: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-22-93 12:45> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

Ahh Vince--Your so sweet, but it has nothing to do with 'Bias'--SHOWOFF! was
developed by a team of PhD's that decided the user lacked a true imaging
toolbox--SHOWOFF is the technology that was destined to replace VPIC and CSHOW
etc--It has a better color pallette, and it allows you to manage your image
collection which is the plus here--The other packages just allow you to view
the image with clumbsy configurations--This package auto detects your video
needs and self installs, finds the dupes images on your drives, allows you to
build pages of images (1 to 1,024), magnifies any portion of the image many
times, and so on--The shareware version of this is on the Busty Babes in
addition to the scaled down version licensed to us as the interface--So you
have 2 goodies to play with on Busty ! Yes, the entire shareware version is on
the disc as well--

Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it on our
future discs as well-

Thanks for the 'Kudo' !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2585
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,

  I hope you find this disk to be of as good of quality as I have so far.  I
especially like the ease of use that Showoff provides over its predecessor on
the original BB disk.  The quality of both the disk and material on it are in
my own personal opinon outstanding.  This disk shows us that pride in a job
well done is not yet dead in America.  Granted that some out there may not
approve of this type of material but that being beside the point this disk is
of the highest quality workmanship I've seen lately.

Wm.

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  5:18p
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A Fully Commercial - Fully Copyrighted Disc

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support -
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2587
  To: CHAD NEWMAN                              Date: 07/25/93 10:22p
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CN>I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) fo
CN>an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the tra

How about a copy of Pc-Pix Volume II?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2588
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:28p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

Mike,
You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2589
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:30p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,

Send me this one, too, ok?

MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,

And this one...

MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,

And this one...

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2590
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:31p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus

Send me this one too, please...

MS>12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all

And this one.

Thanks,
Terry

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From: SHAWN MAY                              Number: 2591
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  2:43p
Subj: The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encycl  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Anyone interested in "The software toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia,
comes with a little manual, lookif for 40$ OBO..

    Shawn

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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 2592
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/27/93  2:45p
Subj: Adult Cd-Roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Michellea Sorensen to All <=-

 MS> Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
 MS> copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
 MS> Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

 MS> Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $50
 MS> that includes all taxes. PLUS there's no delay or worry
 MS> about an unscheduled stop at customs, because they're
 MS> shipped direct to you from within Canada!

        Hi Michellea,  do you appear in the previous released versions?
What other CD titles do you have available and where can I get a price
listing of these CD's?

ttys

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2593
  To: HAROLD WEISS                             Date: 07/29/93  7:55a
Subj: Mailing List                            Refer: 5938
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> To any Vendors: WE HAVE MONEY ! :)

By all means, give me a call !  We publish the Shareware Studio &
SoundWAV CDs... We distribute other titles as well.

Tim Helton
Data Express, Inc.
Voice : 404-621-9210
FAX   : [phone]
FIDO  :    1:133/515
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2594
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/29/93  7:01a
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: 5952
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  TH> OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.
->
->  TH> tim
->  TH> moderator
->
-> Was just curious if you are going to implement the new rules that Bob
-> posted in the CDROM echo....

Dunno... I do know that I'll fight til the death to preserve my (and
your) right to free speech, provided that such free speech doesn't cause
anyone harm.  I WILL NOT (and never will) implement policy for the
purpose of force feeding morality.... That was your parent's job, not
mine.

Please, any discussion on this topic should be sent netmail (1:133/515)
and NOT posted in this echo.

tim
moderator/libertarian
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2595
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/29/93  7:13a
Subj: BUBBA!!!!                               Refer: 5961
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Do we have to listen about this CRAP! for the next year or so?
-> I for one am getting sick of it.
-> These messages are ALL of topic and do not belong in this echo.
-> Please put an end to it!

Yes Sir!

I'm doing my best, but when folks like you keep throwing the topics back
up for discussion, it makes my job tougher.

The best way to stop a kid from whining is to ignore um.  The same
principal applies to this echo...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2596
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93  7:57a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: 5969
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but man
-> machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated lin
-> writeoff.

Hey Don,

I've wondered the same thing... With stand alone FAX machines costing
only $300, it puzzles me how someone could justify NOT having one with
a dedicated line attached.

FAX me - I'm ready to deal!

tim
FAX : [phone]
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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 2597
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/25/93  4:02p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq
 DP> the "fix" file from us as
 DP> "WBOXFIX.ZIP" at 1:161/205.  Sorry for the problems -
 DP> the disk isn't exactly
 DP> worthless w/o the front end, wouldn't you agree?  :>

    I noticed that fix file on your board. Unfortunatly I had called looking
for alternative FILES.BBS files in a format for Maximus/Opus. On the inside
cover it says " Damar Enterprises provides their FILES.BBS listings in many
specific BBS formats. Please call our 24 hour/day BBS for a complete selection
of FREE downloads to support the CD Winbox". I called looking for them to no
avail....where can I get them?
    DCK


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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 2598
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 07/28/93  2:51p
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Why thank you very much Karen.

ttyl

/usr/dan

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 2599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:23a
Subj: MITSUMI 350ms CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know if the proprietary controller that comes with the
mitsumi 16 bit 350ms access drive will support a second drive?

I'd like to add a second drive but dont have a free card slot for
another controller <grin> or frankly the IRQ to space.

James

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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2600
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:01p
Subj: Libel and the single  1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've been quietly following this whole proceeding between Michael Benge
and Terry Woodward, and must say that I'm a little confused.  From my
end, this is what I've perceived to have happened:

1) Michael & Terry agreed to "trade" CD's, each "cross-shipping" their
   respective CD to the other.

2) Michael sent off his CD, as agreed. Terry, on the other hand, was tied
   up, albeit with good reason, and did not send out the CD as promised.

3) Michael then stated on the echo, pretty politely at the time, that he
   was having problems in completing the deal with Terry.  Whether he
   had jumped the gun at this time, or not, I don't know.  If he hadn't
   tried to discuss it with Terry, either voice, or in a personal
   message in the echo, then he should have.  Regardless, I remember that
   the initial message from him was actually pretty civil.

4) Terry responded to Michael's message fairly vehemently.  I do remember
   that he was the first one to start calling names, and that he stated
   that he had been too busy to send out his CD, and that he was no
   longer interested in completing the deal, because he didn't like the
   CD that Michael had sent.

5) At this point, things disintegrated.  Michael, showing his hot-
   headedness, which has already caused run-ins with others
   (myself included), continued to press the matter, provoking other
   users to get involved.

6) The moderator of the echo, obviously a friend of the "well-liked" and
   "much respected" Terry Woodward did something that I thought was a
   little strange by personally attacking Michael, and defending Terry,
   as did many others.

7) The matter has continued to develop to the point where it is now.
   Little pot shots at Michael from various users, provoking further
   responses from Michael to defend his point...  All while the main
   point is forgotten...

MAIN POINT

   Obviously Mr. Woodward has alot of friends on this echo, and
   undoubtedly there's a reason for that.  I'm sure he's a very nice
   fellow, and, like I said, the explanations that he gave for being
   tied up were perfectly understandable.  I've never dealt with him,
   but I would not hesitate at all to deal with him.  Believe me, I
   know how hectic things can be sometimes... and I don't always get
   my stuff out as soon as I should. To me, his reputation is untarnished.

   Mr. Benge, on the other hand, has obviously already enlightened a
   number of users to his personality.  As I said, I've personally dealt
   with Mike, and it is not something I will EVER do again.  He still
   owes my wife an apology for a tantrum he threw, during a FAVOR I was
   doing for HIM.   (I'm still waiting Mike, and I haven't forgot.)

   However, all that aside...  from where I stand, it was Terry that did
   not complete his end of the deal, no matter the reasons.  Mike upheld
   his end of the bargain, sending out his CD in good faith, and waited
   to receive Terry's.  Terry, on the other hand, did not send out the
   CD as expected, and instead returned Mike's CD to him after reviewing
   it, and determining that he didn't like it.  Not quite as agreed upon.

   So the questions remain...

   1) Did Michael Benge have a right to complain about the way the deal
      was handled?

      Not to the degree that he has, although, like I said, he started it
      fairly civily, and it has devolved to where it is now, largely
      due to the input of other users.

      Believe me, I've been involved in many, many deals on the echoes,
      and I have now been ripped off 6 times.  In each case I stated
      my point, very civily, and have been attacked by others, even
      though I was the victim.  One time in particular I was up against
      another well known user, and was castrated when I brought up our
      problems, by other users, and the moderator.  Of course, my
      "revenge" came in watching the same person rip off several other
      users, before he dropped out of sight.  Still had my money, but
      so many people had to eat their words.

  2) Does Michael have a right to expect the $2.90 that he spent on
     postage?

     Yes.  He dealt in good faith.  He had to spend the money to send
     out a CD for no reason.  So he is deserving.

3)  Is Michael Benge a "jerk", and should he make that call and apologize
    to my wife, and should he go ahead and forward the $2.90 to me for
    having to mail his stuff to him out of my pocket as well as the scans
    I did as a favor?

    You decide.

But never, ever forget who the victim is.

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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2601
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:01p
Subj: Libel and the single  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

(Continued from previous message)


... CP [IR] * Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.


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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2602
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/28/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CACHING????                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

James,
I belive you're talking about a cache called Cache-all.  It supposedly is
able to cache any media.  If you want, I can dig up their BBS number so you
can DL the newest version.

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 2603
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/28/93  5:57p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You commented to Peter Dettelis recently:

LF>do have the Best of the Bureau. It suffers from weak search/retrieval,
LF>in that it allows only an entire article (as opposed to a user-selected
LF>portion) to be output to disk. I infer (perhaps incorrectly) that the
LF>full-size Bureau publications have the same problem. Do you know if that
LF>is the case?

While I don't have the full-size pubs you asked about, I've seen the same type
of engine used on the two disks that I do have from them: World Fact Book, and
U. S. History.  I agree that it is sometimes a bother to save to disk a long
file, and then have to edit it separately to collect a small fragment, perhaps
as a quotation that I might paste into another document.

There are a couple ways of making life a bit easier, I've found.  You can save
the article, F8 seems to be a popular way with them, and then edit it
afterwards with your favorite editor/word-cruncher routine.  Or, you could save
it as an article and use Vern Buerg's LIST.COM to find and collect the portion.
 You might also locate the file by using GREP on the list of files to locate
directly the filename, bypassing the engine, and then editing a copy of that
file; this involves expertise of working from the command line, which is often
a terrible experience for some folks.  I've not found a different method that
was acceptable, and will be curious to learn if you discover one.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Murphy is out there somewhere ... just waiting ...


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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2604
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/27/93  5:19p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF

I think there are several different titles available.  I have PRECISION MAPPING
U.S.A. VERSION 1993.   It contains 2 CDROMs For the maps and 1 CD ROM with the
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK as a bonus.  It retails in Canada for $139.95 CAD.
                                            Karel
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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2605
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  5:26p
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I also have PRECISION MAPPING and I'm also having the same problems that came
up here.

MS>even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this

                                             Karel
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2606
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/28/93  6:09p
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

I'll call you.  I do read the CD-ROM For Sale echo but don't respond much in
it.  I do read and respond in the CD-ROM echo area.  I'll be going to COMDEX
again this year.  Will I see you there?


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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 2607
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/28/93  2:12a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB> Some CDRoms for sale:

EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)

Is this disc BBS compatible?  If so, I might just order it...
:)
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2608
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/28/93  6:42a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have
 > completed it.
  >>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 >
 > Sure, what would you like?  I carry most titles.  Give me a call.
 >
 >                                                         Jim...

Sorry, but I have already traded it.


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2609
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/28/93  6:44a
Subj: RE: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 >IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 >IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-
 >
 > Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if
 > interested.
 > As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't
 > wish to
 > "corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable
 > minds.
 > Thanks in advance.
 >
 > ,\\ark

Sorry, I have already traded it.


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2610
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/28/93  2:27p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

MJ>Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if
MJ>interested.
MJ>As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't wish to
MJ>"corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable minds.
MJ>Thanks in advance.

MJ>,\\ark



MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who show the
distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

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From: MARK STEIGER                           Number: 2611
  To: CHRIS MORGAN                             Date: 07/28/93  8:12p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chris!

24 Jul 93, Chris Morgan writes to Mark Steiger:

 CM> Well, I don't own one but the Sound Blaster 16 has one on it.

What are you talking about?  Could you please quote alittle from my original
message?

Thanks

Mark

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2612
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  8:20a
Subj: CD Sales                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Some of the shareware CD-Roms I recommend for BBSes are:

So Much Shareware 3 - The tops for Spitfire! .................... $39
Night Owl 9 - Large and recent collection ....................... $39
Big Sky ROM - Has some older files, but great collection ........ $48
Software Vault 2 - All 1993 Files. Easy to set up ............... $29
CD Winbox - Very recent and NICE collection for Windows fans .... $29
Digital Dreams by Ero Tek - Adult disk with Playboy style pics .. $32

Call the Computer Works BBS and download Catalog.zip for a listing of
all titles with prices and descriptions.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2613
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/28/93  9:24p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA...306-789-4654 SAMPLE TITLES FROM OUR
  VS> CATALOG
  VS> -----------------------------------------------
  VS> AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK - FANTAZIA FONTS  - TEMPRA ACCESS ANIMALS
  VS> MULTIMEDIA          - SCI-FI/FANTASY  - CD WINBOX ARTHUR'S TEACHER
  VS> TROUBLE    - GAMES 1993      - SWIMWEAR '93 BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL
  VS> - KINGS QUEST 5   - WINDOWS 1993 MIXED UP MOTHER GOOSE       - NIGHT
  VS> OWL 9     - RETURN TO THE MOON EDUCATION MASTER            - LEARNING
  VS> FRENCH - PUBLISHER'S DREAM DISK ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART    - KIDS CAN
  VS> READ   - MAYO CLINIC

Pls add me to your Mailing List.

M. Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2614
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/29/93 12:31p
Subj: busty babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Lee!
  I just recieved my copy of "BUSTY BABES" and I must say BRAVO!
I really like the interface that you have developed. It is setup very
well, and very easy to use as well!
  I looked at most of the gifs and seen my "originals" that I sent you
listed in the directories, I am glad that you were able to use them, and
will be sending you  about 500 more of some "LOCAL TAMPA BAY" girls that
have already agreed with me to let you have the scans for your next
release. Give me about 8 or 10 weeks to get them all orginized. I will
send the scans on a "quic-80" 250 meg tape. Will your tape drive read
Iomega standards? I have had compatibilty problems with Colorado ,
Trakker, and another that I can't recall, But we will give it our best
shot!
  Ok well I just wanted to say hello and thank you very much for the
copy of "BUSTY" she is a dream! It will certianly be a compliment to my
now already great bbs!
 Take care and keep up the good work! I must leave now before my
"Grammar and spelling are torn to shreads again"<G>.

Bubba
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2615
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/28/93 11:18a
Subj: Adult cd-roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>Hey Canadians!

MS>Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
  >copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
  >Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

Michellea, I was wondering if you'd go "all the way" for some of American
admirers..........

I would like to know if the same "deal" can be had here in the lower 48.

Sign me: Dreaming in Danvers

;-)

Pat

 * OLX 2.1 TD * To err is Human.  To blame someone else is politics.


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From: MATT SMITH                             Number: 2616
  To: WEE YUNG                                 Date: 07/29/93 10:16a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You sent me a letter about a Creatice Labs 16. CD-rom with Sound Blaster 16 bit
and speakers and the 3 CD's for $459.00..Well, I am interested but is the sound
card XA Compatible and does it have a CD-ROM interface? If so to both of those
I'll give you $399.00 for it. Let me know..

             Matt Smith


P.S.--That offer is NOT final...


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2617
  To: CAM LIRONDELLE                           Date: 07/29/93  9:29a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CL> S9>> michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to
CL> install
CL> S9>> and it works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under
CL> os/2.
CL>
CL>  MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.
CL>
CL> I am interested!  How much?

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2618
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/29/93  9:30a
Subj: Re: Scsi cdrom drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TC> -> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.
TC>
TC> Michael....  Would you care to work up a trade for one of the
TC> following
TC> drives???  I have several things to trade...  1x9 70ns SIMMS (4megs
TC> total); I have a VERY nice 250 watt UPS that has a NEW battery, Also

Maybe interested in the 250 watt UPS.  Give me a call, so I can get an
ideal of it's durability.

205-837-5053


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2619
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/30/93  6:50a
Subj: Libel and the single  1/2               Refer: 6045
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> and Terry Woodward, and must say that I'm a little confused.  From my
-> end, this is what I've perceived to have happened:

1.  This echo IS NOT a forum for dealer/customer disputes.

2.  This echo IS NOT a forum to arbitrate such disputes.

3.  EOT.

tim
moderator
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From: JAMES MCKINNEY                         Number: 2620
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/29/93 11:29p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI, am i understanding you right a Mitsumi  150ms 150kb transfer
for $200.00.

LET ME KNOW !!! Please...


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2621
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2622
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2623
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: NEW ADULT CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2624
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/29/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> -> Panasonic 501B $300
> -> Chinon 535-CDS $430

> Ismail, what are the Access and kb/transfer times on these
> two drives?, I may be interested, especially in the Chinon.
Panasonic 501B 380ms
Chinon 535-CDS 280ms (double spin). Both of them are set drives (complete with
software/interface card/docs) TTYL

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2625
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: Fax                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but many
> fax machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated
> line is a tax writeoff.
Hi Don,
We have HP LaserFax online 24hr a day. 1-800-277-5179 / 1-206-473-1634 will
connect to our fax #. TTYL

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2626
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 07/29/93  1:15a
Subj: PIER 2 CD-ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VM>     Just a note to say thanks for the CD.  It's a real nice one, and very
VM>easy to set up with a BBS.
VM>Later,
VM>     Vernon Melton

Glad you are enjoying the Pier 2, and a public congratulations to you for
winning our first CD GIVEAWAY!

Have fun,

.\\ike

---
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2627
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/29/93  1:15a
Subj: TRADE ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another
adu
KP>MS> KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.
KP>MS>
KP>MS> I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout
i
KP>MS> interested.
KP>MS>

KP>  Okay, I will trade you Volcano for Storm 1.  Please send the CD to:
KP>  My phone is [phone]  Once I get your disk, then I will ship this
one
KP>the same day.

Kevin,

Well, you've almost got it down.  You see, it is usually customary for
two traders to "cross-ship" CD's when they deal.  That means you trust
me to ship mine, while I trust you to ship yours on the same day.  Give
me a call, and we can set this up, OK?

BTW, do you work for Free Spirit?  I see you plugging their CD's.

Later,

.\\ike
509-457-2892

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2628
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  3:44a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <18 Jul 93  10:21:26>, Michael Konor (1:373/8) writes:

 >I still have a couple left if you know anyone.
I am seriously considering buying two more from ya, one internal, one
external,
what would be the best deal you could give me on those two?

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2629
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/29/93  3:54a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <26 Jul 93  02:14:07>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:

 >********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************
 >
 >Learning Adventure
 >Business Assistant
 >Colossal CookBook
 >Technotools
I might be interested in these, please tell me a little about Learning
adventure, business assistant, and Technotools. Or if you are willing to stand
 behind them as being well worth the money just ship them and 4 caddies to me.


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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2630
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/28/93  7:09p
Subj: Wholesaling & retailing                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Vince Sorensen wrote
----------------------------------------
>>AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK
---------------------------------------- How much is this one going for?

Lee Christopher Wise
===
 * TLX v3.00 * Computers are OUR business, our ONLY business


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 2631
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  5:38a
Subj: Sound blaster                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Doesn't anyone know the command to turn on the Soundblaster
to send a sound source directly through it (such as the CD)
I know there is one.....


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From: JOHN BENJAMIN                          Number: 2632
  To: ALL DEALER                               Date: 07/27/93 12:35a
Subj: Wanted!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all Dealers in FLORIDA,
        We want your CD-ROM For Sale postings in a brand new Fido style
net called The Sunshine State Network, a.k.a. SUN_NET.
        This is a Florida network ONLY!  If you don't have a SUN_NET
mail HUB in your area and would like to be a HUB we want to know.
        FREQ from me, 1:3609/16 using the magic name SUN for the latest
SUN_NET nodelist, application form and list of conferences.

John Benjamin
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-2352 ■ All rising to a great place is by a winding stair.


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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 2633
  To: SHAWN DOWNEY                             Date: 07/26/93  3:21p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I tried to send you crashmail, referring to the Digital Dreams
CDROM, but couldnt reach you. Could you please contact me, I want
to buy Digital Dreams CDROM's
Kursun CDROM Versand
Karl-Marx-Ring 148
81737 Munich / GERMANY
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378421
compuserve: 100116,3315

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From: JOHN ANDERSON                          Number: 2634
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  3:17p
Subj: CD-ROMs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Used CD-ROMs For Sale:

    Maniac Mansion 2: Day Of The Tentacle - $40
    Loom - $15
    The 7th Guest - $25
    Infocom Treasure Chest - $20

Call [phone] in your interested, or send Netmail to John Anderson
@ 1:396/1

___
* UniQWK v2.0 * This Copy Of UniQWK will never be registered b/c it stinks!



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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2635
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/28/93  4:18p
Subj: Address                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris, I would like to order some CD ROM disks, and send a
money order instead of using a credit card.  Would you please
indicate the correct address to send the order to?  Also, would
you advise the price of the BB version 1 you have? I would like
to have one, but not sure I can afford it.

Thanks for the info above.



... My CD Rom is slower than your CD Rom!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2636
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/29/93 11:49a
Subj: Re: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Terry Woodward to Blaine Richard <=-
 BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly
&

 TW> How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by
 TW> standard, limited to 256 colors?


Correct you are, mon ami!  All the True Color images I've ever seen
were (huge) TARGA files.

... My other computer is a 486.
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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2637
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/28/93  9:38a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Is this CD just gifs? If so I'll take it for 25.00 with shipping. How's
that?
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2638
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 11:01p
Subj: who's crazy?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-21-93  00:10 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom:

 MS> With catalogs from Crazy Mike and Crazy Bob, what more do you need?
 MS> 8)
 MS> .\\ike

Maybe a few sane ones, or more crazys. Anyway, the disks arrived just
fine. Interestingly enough, on "Too Many Typefonts" I found a font that
I myself had ported to the laserjet format and uploaded (somewhere...) a
few years ago. Immortalized in [whatever they make cd's out of]!


... What do you mean you 'formatted' the cat?
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2639
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93 12:13a
Subj: Bottom line pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-21-93  00:10 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom:

 MS> growing customer base.  Because of this, I haven't had a chance to sit
 MS> down and update my 2-column "monster" CD price list with all the new
 MS> titles we keep getting.  Come to think of it, I haven't had a chance to

But how will we know of all the great new stuff available if you don't
tell us?


... Illiterate?  Write for FREE HELP!
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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2640
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  3:34a
Subj: Wanted!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for:

Busty Babes ($20)
Nix Pix 1   ($40)
Storm 1, 2 or 3. ($20)

And willing to pay price indicated plus shipping.

Please leave msg if interested.  Thanks.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators.


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2641
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  2:32p
Subj: Wanted: Storm 2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in buying Storm 2.  It sells new in this conference for $28, so
I'll pay up to $20 delivered for a used one.  Please reply here or in netmail.
Thanks.

I'm also interested in a used copy of Nightowl 9, but that seems pretty
unlikely.  <grin>

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From: SCOTT BROOKER                          Number: 2642
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93 11:34a
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* Original Area: Cdrom
* Original To  : All (1:348/501)

Hi, Has anyone had trouble with the Mitsumi OS/2 CDROM driver v1.0 by J.P.
Cossette working with the new version of OS/2 2.1 I have just upgraded from the
beta version and cannot seem to get my system to see the CDROM I get an ICON
for a normal disk drive 'not a cd' and when I try to access it im told that its
not formated.

 Is there a new version out? also does anyone know how to contact J.P.
cossette, I ordered the driver got the disk and the only way to get ahold of
him is by CompuServe. there was no address on any of the docs. and of course I
tossed out the address that I had once read in an echo.

better yet does anyone know of a good Mitsumi Driver for OS/2 that allows you
to access the CDROM from an OS/2 Session not just DOS???

 Thanks, Scott.

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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 2643
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  3:41p
Subj: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi CD-Roms       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, all!

I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would
support
the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.

Thanks!

Terry

P.S. And if I can play the game, how about a price quote?



... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: DAN HOOD                               Number: 2644
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  1:33p
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Micahel
 > 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

 > Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
 > SCSI,
 >   300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
 > Refurb.,
 >   64k buffer.

Is the above ROM compatible with OS/2 v2.1? Are there drivers available for it
to run under OS/2? If so I'll take it.

danie

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2645
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/27/93 10:26p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <23 Jul 93  12:06:48>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >Ryan, I am sorry to say that the 7th Guest game was sold on Monday. I
 >hope that you are not too disappionted. It looks like the lag in Net-Mail
 >kept you from seeing the SOLD post in time. I know that Brian Stark at
 >1:290/8 said that he also had the game and was willing to trade. Maybe
 >you can still work a deal with him. Let me know if you want me to rip up
 >the check or send it back.
Gee, I wish I would have known that you use your net mail address! It was for
a friend, so it would be best it you sent it back. Return the check to Ryan
Denke, 5011 E.18th, Casper, Wy 82609.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2646
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/27/93 10:28p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <24 Jul 93  03:02:00>, Israel Gomberg (1:387/822) writes:
 >I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
 >Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
I just sold all my adult Cd's, but how about $36 shipped, cash money.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2647
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/29/93  8:15p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specialse              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JC> and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD
 JC> of Windows Shareware, set up for RA bbs software?
 JC> Something current?   Thanks!

The Windows 1993 has dirs in pcboard type format.  It is pretty good, but not
really RA ready.  I haven't looked at the CD Winbox...it may be closer to what
your looking for...anybody know if it is RA ready?  I have both in stock at an
excellent price.....800-547-7817 to order.

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2648
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:12p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Mike,

I've got a couple of questions for you.  I'm running a Mitsumi CDRom
on my BBS and I've run into a problem.  I've got the 3 CD set of
Shareware Bonanza and they have been doing fine.  But I picked up
the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more
CDs until I know what's going on. Now for the questions:

1.  If it is my CDRom, what is the difference between the CDs that my
    reader will read some but not others?

2.  Do you have any suggestions for CDs that my reader will read, such as
    the Night Owl series, etc.?

I would like to pick up a few more CDs to switch out on a regular basis.
I'd like a good mix of up-to-date shareware, g-rated .gif files, utilities,
etc.  Would appreciate any insight you can spare.

                                     Ron


... Have you seen Quasimodo? I had a hunch he was back.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2649
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  3:02p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-ROM DISCOUNTS              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you tell me more about the "Adult Reference Library"?

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2650
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93 11:03p
Subj: Mitsumi under OS/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can someone tell me what it takes to install a Mitsumi LU005 under OS2? Is it
even possible? What is needed?

CJK

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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 2651
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/29/93  8:46p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to David Balnites, Terry Blount said:

 >  I wrote one the other day to do that for someone.  I'll

Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a couple small things that
maybe you could modify...?

The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
This only happens when the first part of the filename is the maximum of 8
charaters.  If the name is 7 or less, it'll write the full 3 character
extentsion.

Example:

1234567.abc  remain as is.
but
12345678.abc  will become  12345678.ab

While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add an option to truncate the
finished line to a user definable number of characters?  Something like:

Mike dir10 /115

It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to whatever length a certain
program requires.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Mike
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2652
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/30/93  1:07a
Subj: Re: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <07-27-93 02:28> Terry Woodward wrote:

>   BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs
>
>   How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by standard
>   limited to 256 colors?

Terry is says "Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color"
Perhaps it should be phrased  "Also includes 300 Megs of the Best GIF images
in 24 bit True Color TIFF format" I hope this clear it up for you and all that
it was unclear to.
                        Blaine R. Richard III

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From: TONY MATA                              Number: 2653
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/30/93  2:03a
Subj: Audio Cables                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Try calling TTS systems at 800-887-4968.
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 2654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  3:14p
Subj: Used CD-Roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are a SysOp of a BBS, have we got a deal for
you.  We have again purchased another shipment of
good condition Hitachi CDR-1503S external CD-ROM
drives. These units are PERFECT for BBS operations
and have a proven track record for years with may
of us. Price listed below are plus shipping.
Quanities are limited, so order yours today!
These units can be daisy chained to use up to four
drives on one controller. When ordering, remember
that each drive needs one (1) cable. MasterCard and
Visa are excepted!
Bare CDR-1503S external CD-ROM drive..........$126.00 USED
Interface cards................................$71.00 NEW
Cables.........................................$15.00 NEW
Drive carry a 30 day warranty, for repair or replacement
by us. Please contact us for more information, or orders...
We accept VISA, Mastercard, Carte Blanche and Diners Club too!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE BBS
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI  48732-0021
Fido 1:239/675
517-892-5079  14.4


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2655
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/28/93  7:06p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

APPARENTLY THERE ARE MORE THAN DAVE REEDS THAN JUST I. THE RESPONSE DATE WAS
JUST TWO DAYS AGO AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ON THIS BBS SINCE MAY WHEN I CALLED TO
GET MY LOD REGISTRATION. MANY REGRETS TO WHOEVER THIS MESSAGE WAS ACTUALLY
INTENDED FOR... I KNOW NOT WHO HAS BEEN ON THIS BBS USING MY NAME AND PASSWORD,
PERHAPS I SHOULD CHANGE MY INFO.....

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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 2656
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  2:06p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you publish a catalog, I would be interested in getting a copy.  You can
send to to David M. White, 452 N. Bull Run Dr., Tucson, Az 85748.



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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 2657
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  2:07p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

An addendum to previous message re: catalog.  I am NOT interested in adult
stuff.



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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2658
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/29/93 11:30a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
RW>it.
IG>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
IG>                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

RW>Hey Israel,

RW>Will trade the Volcanoe adult CD for it.  Let me know if you're
RW>interested.

Sorry, But I have aleady traded it.

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2659
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/29/93  7:26p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I think I'll wait until you can tell me a bit more about them. Thanks

Bob, please excuse my "short memory", but my mail reader recently went in for
major surgery........... Thankfully, it's pulled through, and it looks as
though it will survive, however all of it's memories are simply that,
memories...

If you would be so king as to refresh it's little mind as to the topic of the
discussion, I'd more than happy to supply you with the information you've
requested.

;-)

Regards,

Pat

===
 * RM 1.0 B0391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  9:01p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM for Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its OS/2 CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
300 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2661
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  6:59a
Subj: SCSI Cdrom Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer. Warranty.

205-837-5053




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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 2662
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/29/93  4:15p
Subj: DRIVES                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim could you please send me a catalog?  I'm a sysop and reseller in NC
and have many CD-ROM customers.


Zack Hamm
5317 baywood Forest Drive
Knightdale, NC 27545-8916


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From: STEPHEN BURT                           Number: 2663
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  2:01a
Subj: SHAREWARE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am trying to find a good shareware CD that has a lot of QUALITY games on it.
I have the Software Vault I and II.  I bought them both for 35 dollars.  That's
a lot cheaper than I've seen them elsewhere.  Not too bad for a wide selection,
and as I already said 35 wasn't bad for the pair; however, I am looking for a
good game CD.  One with a lot of apogee, etc...  I also would like to find one
that also has a lot of hints for games.  I am still trying to get through
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade(help anyone?)
Thanks,
Stephen Burt


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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 2664
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 07/29/93 10:07a
Subj: MITSUMI 350ms CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP> Does anyone know if the proprietary controller that comes with the
JP> mitsumi 16 bit 350ms access drive will support a second drive?
JP>
JP> I'd like to add a second drive but dont have a free card slot for
JP> another controller <grin> or frankly the IRQ to space.

Nope, it sure won't.  You can put in 2 drives, but they each must
have their own controller card.
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2665
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 07/30/93  4:45p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> EB> Some CDRoms for sale:
>>
>> EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
>>
>> Is this disc BBS compatible?  If so, I might just order it...

    It is.  It has files that support most of the major types of BBS's.
I put it up on my board with ease.

Eric


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2666
  To: BABE-AHOLICS                             Date: 07/29/93  4:46p
Subj: THE RECOMMENDED ADULT CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G         *******   **  **  ***** ****** **    **
  e       **    **  **  **  **      **    **  **
    t     *******   **  **  *****   **     ****
          **    **  **  **     **   **      **
          *******    ****   *****   **      **

Hey Canadians!

We've got BUSTY BABES... The best adult disc, period.
Features thousands of sizzling pictures of the bustiest
babes in North America including (yes!) Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF (it rocks!), and it's BBS Ready.

Only if you order from us can can get this special bonus:
your copy will be hand-signed by one of the Canadian models!

Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $40
that includes all taxes throughout the month of August.
PLUS there's no delay or worry about an unscheduled stop
at customs, because they're shipped direct to you from
within Canada!

Only from CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA.

6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice    306-789-8690 Fax
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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:14p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



DC Computing

This is July's CD price list for DC Computing
==========================================================================


101 Positions 1&2 (adult) (each)                            $75.00ea.
Adult Palate (adult)                                        $35.00
Adult Referance Library  (adult)                            $23.00
After Dark Trilogy (adult)                                  $40.00
Amateur Models (adult)                                      $30.00
Animal's MPC or DOS                                         $26.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                                    $27.00
Barney Bear Goes to School                                  $24.00
Barney Bear goes to Space                                   $24.00
Best of Vivid                                               $
Bibles & Religion                                           $19.00
Business Master                                             $21.00
Busty Babes 3.0 Revised (adult)                             $30.00
CD Winbox                                                   $28.00
Clip Art Goliath                                            $19.00
Club Expose' (adult)                                        $43.00
Colormagic                                                  $27.00
Colossal Cookbook                                           $19.00
Complete Bookshop                                           $19.00
Dictionaries & Languages                                    $19.00
Digital Dancing Interactive Movie (adult)                   $45.00
Digital Dreams (adult)                                      $28.00
Dirty Talk Interactive Movie (adult)                        $48.00
Doors of Passion Interactive Movie (adult)                  $48.00
Ecstacy (adult)                                             $30.00
Education Master                                            $21.00
Encyclopedia of Clip Art                                    $25.00
Encyclopedia of Sound                                       $19.00
Fonts #1                                                    $26.00
Gamemaster                                                  $21.00
Games 1993                                                  $24.00
Girls of Vivid Stills (adult)                               $70.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia DOS 5.0                              $49.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia Windows Ver.                         $49.00
Ham Radio 3.0                                               $19.00
Hidden Obsessions Movie (adult)                             $46.00
Hot Pix #2,3,4,5 (adult) (each)                             $29.00ea.
House of Dreams Movie (adult)                               $46.00
House of Games                                              $26.00
Kama Sutra (adult)                                          $
Mantis                                                      $26.00
Mario is Missing w/ World Atlas                             $27.00
Mayo Clinic                                                 $33.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose                                       $25.00
Monster Disc (2 discs)                                      $37.00
Monster Media #1                                            $35.00
My First Time (adult)                                       $50.00
National Parks                                              $27.00
Night Owl 8                                                 $29.00
Nightwatch Inteactive Movie (adult)                         $56.00
Our Solar System                                            $19.00
P.C. SIG Ver #12                                            $24.00
Photo CD (Kodak or Tempra)                                  $30.00
Photo Gallery (adult)                                       $35.00
Pinacotheca - Multimedia                                    $26.00
Precision Mapping                                           $80.00
Prophone (7 discs 1993)                                     $130.00
Prophone Business Disk                                      $36.00
Publishers Paradise                                         $31.00
Publisher's Dream Disk                                      $36.00
Return to the Moon                                          $36.00
Sci-Fi                                                      $26.00
Seymore Butts Interactive Movie (adult)                     $48.00
Seedy Rom Movie Disk (adult)                                $40.00
Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)                            $45.00
Shareware Studio #2                                         $23.00
Sherlock Holmes Detective                                   $27.00
Smutware (adult)                                            $28.00
Southern Beauties (adult)                                   $37.00
Software Vault #2                                           $25.00
Sound Sensations                                            $19.00
Space Quest 4/ Kings Quest (each)                           $25.00ea.
Storm 2/3 (adult) (each)                                    $27.00ea.
Technotools                                                 $19.00
Time Table of Science                                       $25.00
Too Many Typefonts                                          $19.00
Toolworks Referance Library                                 $27.00
U.S. History                                                $32.00
U.S./ World Atlas                                           $28.00
Windows Master                                              $23.00
Windows 1993                                                $27.00
Windoware                                                   $19.00
Women of Venus                                              $28.00
Xtreme (adult)                                              $31.00

Caddies                                                     $6.75ea.


============================================================================
 NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW *  MAC Titles * NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW


Adult Palate (adult)                                        $36.00
Color Magic                                                 $27.00
Digital Dancing Interactive Movie (adult)                   $63.00
Dream Machine Interactive Movie (adult)                     $63.00
Girls of Vivid (adult)                                      $65.00
Hidden Obsessions Movie (adult)                             $50.00
House of Dreams Movie (adult)                               $39.00
Photo Gallery (adult)                                       $39.00
Night Trips Movie (adult)                                   $49.00
Nightwatch Interactive Movie (adult)                        $47.00
Secrets Movie (adult)                                       $47.00
Seymore Butts Interactive Movie (adult)                     $53.00
Women of Venus                                              $31.00


============================================================================

All prices and availability are subject to
change without notice.  CODs only.
BBS # 1-803-873-5797   DAZED AND CONFUSED BBS I
BBS # 1-803-851-7701   DAZED AND CONFUSED BBS III
Fido # 1:372/57
For a descriptive listing of all CD's, download CDSALES.TXT
or it can be FREQ'd from the above BBS numbers or the Fido number.
Magic word for Freqing is "CDSALES".

DC Computing
P.O. Box 1026
Ladson, S.C.
29456










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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2668
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:14p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2669
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:17p
Subj: Busty Babes for $25 + shipping          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


    DC Computing is now offering Busty Babes for $25 plus shipping and
handling...Anyone interested, please call Dazed and Confused BBS at
803-873-5797...You can also freq the lateset list of available cds from
1:372/57, magic word is CDSALES...This offer for Busty Babes is for this week
only...Get it while you can

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2670
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  4:56p
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, I ordered it from someone at 25.00 but that was more than a week ago,
I prepay with a credit card.. I really don't know what's going on...!!
Thanks anyways....

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From: DREW IANNUZZI                          Number: 2671
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:21p
Subj: Peer2                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.


  Reply EMAIL with prices... Thanx.

                                ...Drew
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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2672
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93  5:28p
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

----------------------------------------
DD> FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.

   You must have the wrong type, because mine works fine.  I have recieved many
things and have sent more than you can shake a stick at!


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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2673
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  5:38p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for anyone who is willing to sell their adult CD's--such as
Sexcapades The Movie, Hot Pix...or anything similar.  I prefer movies over
gifs.

If you have any of these CD's, any advice as to which one's are worth
purchasing would be appreciated--especially any opinions that you have about
sexcapades the movie.


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2674
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93 11:28p
Subj: Cd Swap                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
LB>adult CD's.

LB>Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
LB>The Secret of Monkey Island
LB>Loom

LB>Call me at 615-659-9216 voice or
LB>           615-659-6470 FIDO node 3622/10 or 2010 BBS

LB>--- RBBSMAIL 17.1C
LB> * Origin: 2010 BBS - Petersburg TN [phone] (RBBS-PC 1:3622/10.0)
I'll trade ya either Nautilus NET CD or Starvector 208
                Let me know what else you are looking for.  Does Secret
                of Monkey Island require a fast Cd rom? Does it have
                Soundblaster sound!
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2675
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/22/93 11:33p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
DC>Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
DC>Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
DC>Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
DC>Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
DC>Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
DC>Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
DC>All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
DC>PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
DC>Fax [phone] *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

DC>--- Maximus 2.01wb
DC> * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
Doug,
        What is on the "Up All Night" cd, is it adult or what?
                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2676
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/28/93 12:03a
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
IG>adult CD's.

IG>1.Loom
IG>2.The Secret of Monkey Island
IG>3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
IG>4.A Line in the Sand

IG>Israel M. Gomberg
IG>330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
IG>Universal City, TX 78148
IG>[phone]


IG>... I was *this* close to seeing elvis. But my shovel broke.
IG>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

IG>--- TMail v1.31.5
IG> * Origin: Last Chance TBBS *HST v32b* [phone] San Antonio,Tx
IG>(1:387/822)
What would you take for either or both cd's especially Monkey Island???
I have a Nautilus CD I would trade for it, it has multimedia, and other
Windows stuff on it!  Do the cd's have manuals?
                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software
                        [phone]


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2677
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/30/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jackie Rogers to J.p. Ladner <=-

 JR> The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new
 JR> for as low as $175
 JR> if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I
 JR> personally  don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc
 JR> returned to me as  defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the
 JR> customer to inquire about  the type of drive they're using, and they
 JR> ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the  Mitsumi has a problem reading many
 JR> of the discs out there on the market.  HOWEVER, industry sources have
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has  found a problem with
 JR> their controller card, and have corrected it.

I picked up on a similar thread the other day, and since I'm having a
problem reading the Shareware Studio Vols 1&2 I called the dealer where
I got my Mitsumi.  He informed me that this is BS(I think he is waffling).

So now I'm real confused.

Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty, so
I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.

                                           Ron


... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 2678
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:23p
Subj: Re: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the
 MS> super low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware
 MS> CD absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

     Which is this PPG 3.0?  I have the fall 1992 edition, Is the 3.0
     newer than that?

Carlos.

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 2679
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  4:20p
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: 08/01/93  7:36a                       Private: No

On 07-10-93 Tim Helton said to Bob Jackson:

TH>->  WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
TH>-> You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of
TH>-> Australia. I sent the note to them asking about street prices.  So
TH>-> far, I haven't heard back.
TH>
TH>Actually, this disc is coming out of Atlanta... Kevin Wakefield is the
TH>publisher and I have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to
TH>tim


   Didn't you know that we now have offices in Sydney and Melbourne? <g>

   Good'ay mate.....


           <<<  kevin  >>>


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From: JOHNG FISHER                           Number: 2680
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:00p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL>software for only $200 ???

works even on 7th guest--has stereo output to headphone jack in front.  it's
entirely worth it....

===
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2681
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 07/31/93  9:33p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MM> Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a
 MM> couple small things that maybe you could modify...?
 MM>
 MM> The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
 MM> This only happens when the first part of the filename
 MM> is the maximum of 8 charaters.  If the name is 7 or
 MM> less, it'll write the full 3 character extentsion.

Sorry... I noticed that yesterday and fixed it.    You can freq the fixed
version from me at 3625/441  under the magic name "Maxcdset"


 MM> While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add
 MM> an option to truncate the finished line to a user
 MM> definable number of characters?  Something like:

 I have found out that if the line exceeds about 240 chars then
 Maximus will show the rest of the line on a second line with
 "Offline" written before that part of the description.  I am
 currently setting it to read the first 5 lines of the extended
 description.  That seems to work out best with the least amount
 of work.


 MM> It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to
 MM> whatever length a certain program requires.


I can whip up a utility... In fact I already have one somewhere that will read
EVERY file in a directory and whack off anything past a certain column.  If the
current version you freq does not satisfy then let me know...

BTW  I'll have more cases in a couple days... I'll send you 2 unless you let me
know you don't want them.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2682
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/30/93  2:48p
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 26 Jul 93  23:28:00, I heard Jim Lambert shout to J.P. Ladner:

JL> JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
JL>   >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL>   >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
JL>   >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2683
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set
u
JC>for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

If you want the BEST Windows shareware CD available, try CD Winbox.  Just
released, with a full 650mb of mostly '93 files.  In stock at $27 if you
are interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2684
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DD>On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
DD>series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and
am
DD>told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press
yo
DD>SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am
to
DD>6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
DD>out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Then you haven't called Starvector!  We use a good ol' iron horse Murata
desktop model.  She's standing by 24 hours a day, waiting for your call!
Give us a try @ 509-457-2966 any time.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2685
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

>>>>    All callers may download our catalog on the first call!    <<<<

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2687
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/30/93  9:09a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2688
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/30/93  9:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there,

    You advertised:
SPACE QUEST 4 = 25.00
KINGS QUEST 5 = 25.00

It says at top that you can beet any Advertised Price...  I found a deal that
lets these two games come together for about $35...  Can you beat that... Here
I'll give you the guys name and Number....

He is:
Doug Carpenter and his BBS number is (615)-479-1047...

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2689
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/30/93  9:26a
Subj: Space Quest 4/Kings Quest CD Pkg.       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there Doug,
    I would like to know how you would like to be paid if Mike Shannon can not
beat your prices for Space quest 4/Kings Quest...  So please tell me if you
would like a money order and the totall cost CANADIAN would be..  (APROXX)...


Well get back to you in a few days.

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 2690
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/25/93  7:25a
Subj: Red Hot Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

    Hi Boris. I'm looking for virtually any programming CD's and this looks
    like about the most I'd pay. However, I don't know ANY of the available
    CD's. I got Source CD-ROM Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks. I'm
    particularly interested in C, C++, Clipper and dBASE files. My
    father-in-law is interested in Pascal. What kind of files (and their
    numbers) are on this and other disks? Looking to add 3 or 4 more to my
    collection. Thanx for any info....

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing a

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2691
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 07/30/93  8:03p
Subj: MO rcvd/Will ship Monday!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ellen-- Received your money order today for the Adobe Type Manager. Will put
it in the mail to you first thing on Monday. Please drop me a note when it
arrives so I can clear my saved messages on this item. Thanx!

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2692
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/30/93  8:06p
Subj: Encyclo_CD gone                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just a follow-up note to let you know that the person who made an offer on the
Encyclopedia CD did get back with me and still wants it, so I'm afraid it's
gone if he sends the $$. Wanted to let you know so you weren't waiting on me
to look elsewhere. Thanks anyway.

- Heather
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2693
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: MIX or MATCH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2694
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: CD SYSTEMS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2695
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: BUSTY BABE III                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 2696
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 07/29/93 10:58a
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KV>CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF

KV>I think there are several different titles available.  I have PRECISION MAPP
KV>U.S.A. VERSION 1993.   It contains 2 CDROMs For the maps and 1 CD ROM with t
KV>AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK as a bonus.  It retails in Canada for $139.95 C

KV> * Origin: Cheers BBS: -=> Cambridge, Ontario <=- (1:221/206.0)


Karel, could you do me a favor. Could you look at the Precision Map disc
or docs and give me whatever information there is on the publisher's
name/address/telephone or fax numbers?

I've asked one of the distributors here for the info but he's ignored
several messages -- perhaps he thinks I wish to become a competitor. Not
so, I'm a computer journalist who lives in that smoggy city to the south
of you, Hamilton. I'd appreciate any assistance you can give me. Cheers!

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2697
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  3:49p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD & Book           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Latest Corel ArtShow 3

     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book

          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from
          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images
          accompanied by on-line MIDI music

          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)

          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
          your CD-ROM drive.

          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

          $25 + UPS

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2698
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/30/93  6:00p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi, michael.  the drives rod and i ordered arrived just fine yesterday, but you
sent me an external terminator and i needed an internal one.  that drive i got
from you is going inside my computer (remember the internal cable you made for
me?)  anyway, there is not a terminator to be found anywhere in fresno or by
mail order from anyone i could contact thru computer shopper.

the terminator you sent wound up on rod's drive, so it wasnt a total waste -
he's up and running and happy as a clam.

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 2699
  To: CRAIG CURRY                              Date: 07/29/93  7:54p
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Games CDROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**** CRAIG CURRY just happened to say to LARISSA KOHLER ****

CC> They've been putting off my order too. I am looking forward to
CC> the CD
CC> "if" it ever ships. Reminds me of some hardware venders I know...
CC> I guesse I will keep my order standing, but I'm wondering if I
CC> shouldn't
CC> get another CD in the mean time.

I wouldn't...it looks like as soon as it comes off this new publisher, it'll be
out....which should be soon.  :)  Have you tried either their windows cdrom or
their dos cdrom?  I've got both and they're excellent!
     Larissa

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2700
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/31/93  8:23a
Subj: Encyclo_CD gone                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, I will search the world for a copy until I find one.
I see a Name Boris O. is selling CDS. Will try him.


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2701
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/31/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <
->
-> DC>Hogwash.
->
-> Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I sai
-> Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fi
-> If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go a
-> and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)
->
-> .\\ike
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
->  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:
->
 YO mike

Do you have the adult cd featuring teri weigel?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2702
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/31/93 12:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->                  ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
->                        Custom CDROM Service
->
->   Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
->   produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
->   overnight!
->
->    o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfere
->    o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
->    o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
->    o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
->    o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
->    o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
->                  Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
->    o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
->    o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
->    o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!
->
-> Pricing for Custom CD production:
->
-> o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
->             o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
->             o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
->
-> o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
->             o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
->             o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
->
-> o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.
->
->    Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
->  ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
-> DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
->                                    o Everex Tape
->
-> o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software
->
-> o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools
->
-> o Hard Disk
->
-> ** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON
->
-> Terms:
->
->   Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
->   checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
->   not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.
->
-> *** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
->  For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
->  for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
->  ends August 31, 1993.
-> *** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
->
-> Notice:
->
-> Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite",
-> pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRON
-> illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or y
->
-> For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
-> 1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.
->
-> Loyd Craft
-> Four Star Enterprises
-> 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066
-> Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)
->
-> ===
->  * OLX 2.1 * Ea$yTerm$:100% down;pay nothing for the rest of your lif
->
->
-> --- GEcho 1.00+
->  * Origin: Four Star DayDreams - St. Charles, MI [phone] (1:239
->
 Give me a call at (305)7822631 when you are accepting 5.25 scsi tapes

That's what my favorite .gifs are backed up on 400 megs

Vito


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From: LARRY CHARPIAT                         Number: 2703
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/30/93  1:57a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD ROM disk
through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2704
  To: DAN HOOD                                 Date: 07/31/93 11:32a
Subj: Re: SCSI CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH>  > 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.
DH>
DH>  > Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
DH>  > SCSI,
DH>  >   300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
DH>  > Refurb.,
DH>  >   64k buffer.
DH>
DH> Is the above ROM compatible with OS/2 v2.1? Are there drivers
DH> available for it to run under OS/2? If so I'll take it.

I've sold a couple of OS/2 users and haven't heard anything about it not
working.  The drivers came with your OS/2 and your particular SCSI
controller.


*FSED91j*
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2705
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/31/93  7:30a
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You had posted a list of adult titles for sale and I'd asked for more
information. You supplied a little more, but not enough for me to make a
purchase decision. Oddly enough, Goosebump Graphics posted a similar list
shortly thereafter with somewhat more inclusive descriptions. Bottom  line:
I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm interested in  with Mike
Shannon one or two at a time over then next several weeks.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2706
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/31/93  8:49a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/01/93  7:40a                       Private: No

 TH> country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibilit
 TH> force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then


How do you feel about FidoNet moderators?  Apparently the CD-ROM
Information echo will no longer allow even mention of the subject of
adult CDs. Do you plan a similar change for this echo?
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2707
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  9:09p
Subj: Netware PD/ShrWare CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2708
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/01/93  9:02a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: 6151
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  TH> country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibilit
->  TH> force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then
->
->
-> How do you feel about FidoNet moderators?  Apparently the CD-ROM

A Moderator has full say-so regarding conference policy.  As such,
there's nothing wrong with implementing a "rule" like this... So as far
as FidoNet is concerned, everything is cool.

The fundamental question is:  Are FidoNet moderators legally responsible
for the mail that is posted in the echos?  That's a good question.  If
the moderator owned copyright to the echo, I would say "yes"... If not,
I would say "no".  In its current state, a moderator "might" be
responsible.

That brings us to another question:  Do moderators own copyright?  Who
knows?  The issue of ownership of an individual echo is not defined in
FidoNet policy, nor has there been a precedent setting case.

OK, who owns copyright to the echos?  Tom Jennings owns copyright to the
nodelist (good for him), but not the echos... George Peace?  He's the
king of the hill in the network, but he doesn't own the echos (a
moderator has the authority to cut GP's feed)... Are the echos public
domain?  They can't be because there is no one of sufficient authority
to declare them as such... So, who owns copyright: "dunno".

The punch line is "yes" - someone is legally responsible for the mail
that flows thru this echo, but that "someone" is unknown.

-> adult CDs. Do you plan a similar change for this echo?

Right now, no.  I see no fundamental legal differences between what
occurs here & what occurs in the back of PC Magazine... Obviously I
won't allow specific, nontechnical, discussion of these discs in this
echo - that goes without saying.  I guess what I'm trying to say is, "if
it's good enough for PC Mag, it's good enough for me"...

tim
moderator
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2709
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/29/93  8:50a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Doug!

In a message to John Robinson <07/27/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>  JR> Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a
DC>  JR> vendor who shows their
DC>  JR> dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it
DC>  JR> the President or anyone
DC>  JR> else for that Matter..

DC> You democrats are all alike <G D&R>.

Well, I "Never said" I was a Democrat....
Just like to see The CD echo used for CD-ROM.."NOT" Clinton Discussion
as some have chose to do..(Poor Taste).... <GBFG>   ^       ^

John

 * WCE 1.10/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2710
  To: MARK STEIGER                             Date: 07/29/93  6:04p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATI Technologies has one, Stereo F/X CD.
It is about the same as the S.B. pro, but has enhanced noise filtering,
and less distortion.
It costs about $145 mailorder.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2711
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 07/29/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: CAN U READ THIS?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I read it fine too.

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2712
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/29/93  6:15p
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM driv               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does that mean we get a discount?
Say, after hearing this, what exactly IS a good CD-ROM?
I am BADLY in the market for one :)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2713
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  6:18p
Subj: Toshiba CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I really need a drive, do these have software and are they SCSI?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2714
  To: RENE LINDNER                             Date: 07/30/93  8:15p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Pckwik will do the job.. Caches hard and CD-ROM drives!

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2715
  To: GLENN JONES                              Date: 07/30/93  8:44p
Subj: CD Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, if you want to stay with MPC for games and most programs.
500ms speed or faster, 150kb/sec or faster and SCSI interface. (not
needed but helps performance)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2716
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 07/31/93  1:12p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Up All Night is a new shareware CD that Bob Hall published.  It is a general
mix of shareware spanning a few years.  It also has all the 1990 messages from
the CD echo.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2717
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93 11:28p
Subj: Cd Swap                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
LB>adult CD's.

LB>Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
LB>The Secret of Monkey Island
LB>Loom

LB>Call me at 615-659-9216 voice or
LB>           615-659-6470 FIDO node 3622/10 or 2010 BBS

LB>--- RBBSMAIL 17.1C
LB> * Origin: 2010 BBS - Petersburg TN [phone] (RBBS-PC 1:3622/10.0)
I'll trade ya either Nautilus NET CD or Starvector 208
                Let me know what else you are looking for.  Does Secret
                of Monkey Island require a fast Cd rom? Does it have
                Soundblaster sound!
                                Sam Figueroa


 * SLMR 2.1a * Sam's Software [phone]

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2718
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/22/93 11:33p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
DC>Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
DC>Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
DC>Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
DC>Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
DC>Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
DC>Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
DC>All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
DC>PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
DC>Fax [phone] *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

DC>--- Maximus 2.01wb
DC> * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
Doug,
        What is on the "Up All Night" cd, is it adult or what?
                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2719
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/28/93 12:03a
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
IG>adult CD's.

IG>1.Loom
IG>2.The Secret of Monkey Island
IG>3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
IG>4.A Line in the Sand

IG>Israel M. Gomberg
IG>330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
IG>Universal City, TX 78148
IG>[phone]


IG>... I was *this* close to seeing elvis. But my shovel broke.
IG>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

IG>--- TMail v1.31.5
IG> * Origin: Last Chance TBBS *HST v32b* [phone] San Antonio,Tx
IG>(1:387/822)
What would you take for either or both cd's especially Monkey Island???
I have a Nautilus CD I would trade for it, it has multimedia, and other
Windows stuff on it!  Do the cd's have manuals?
                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software
                        [phone]


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2720
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/30/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jackie Rogers to J.p. Ladner <=-

 JR> The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new
 JR> for as low as $175
 JR> if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I
 JR> personally  don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc
 JR> returned to me as  defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the
 JR> customer to inquire about  the type of drive they're using, and they
 JR> ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the  Mitsumi has a problem reading many
 JR> of the discs out there on the market.  HOWEVER, industry sources have
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has  found a problem with
 JR> their controller card, and have corrected it.

I picked up on a similar thread the other day, and since I'm having a
problem reading the Shareware Studio Vols 1&2 I called the dealer where
I got my Mitsumi.  He informed me that this is BS(I think he is waffling).

So now I'm real confused.

Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty, so
I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.

                                           Ron


... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 2721
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:23p
Subj: Re: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the
 MS> super low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware
 MS> CD absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

     Which is this PPG 3.0?  I have the fall 1992 edition, Is the 3.0
     newer than that?

Carlos.

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 2722
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  4:20p
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: 08/02/93  6:51a                       Private: No

On 07-10-93 Tim Helton said to Bob Jackson:

TH>->  WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
TH>-> You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of
TH>-> Australia. I sent the note to them asking about street prices.  So
TH>-> far, I haven't heard back.
TH>
TH>Actually, this disc is coming out of Atlanta... Kevin Wakefield is the
TH>publisher and I have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to
TH>tim


   Didn't you know that we now have offices in Sydney and Melbourne? <g>

   Good'ay mate.....


           <<<  kevin  >>>


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From: JOHNG FISHER                           Number: 2723
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:00p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL>software for only $200 ???

works even on 7th guest--has stereo output to headphone jack in front.  it's
entirely worth it....

===
 * RM 1.0 00103 * Good manners are the lubricant of social intercourse.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2724
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 07/31/93  9:33p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MM> Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a
 MM> couple small things that maybe you could modify...?
 MM>
 MM> The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
 MM> This only happens when the first part of the filename
 MM> is the maximum of 8 charaters.  If the name is 7 or
 MM> less, it'll write the full 3 character extentsion.

Sorry... I noticed that yesterday and fixed it.    You can freq the fixed
version from me at 3625/441  under the magic name "Maxcdset"


 MM> While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add
 MM> an option to truncate the finished line to a user
 MM> definable number of characters?  Something like:

 I have found out that if the line exceeds about 240 chars then
 Maximus will show the rest of the line on a second line with
 "Offline" written before that part of the description.  I am
 currently setting it to read the first 5 lines of the extended
 description.  That seems to work out best with the least amount
 of work.


 MM> It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to
 MM> whatever length a certain program requires.


I can whip up a utility... In fact I already have one somewhere that will read
EVERY file in a directory and whack off anything past a certain column.  If the
current version you freq does not satisfy then let me know...

BTW  I'll have more cases in a couple days... I'll send you 2 unless you let me
know you don't want them.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2725
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/30/93  2:48p
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 26 Jul 93  23:28:00, I heard Jim Lambert shout to J.P. Ladner:

JL> JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
JL>   >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL>   >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
JL>   >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2726
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set
u
JC>for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

If you want the BEST Windows shareware CD available, try CD Winbox.  Just
released, with a full 650mb of mostly '93 files.  In stock at $27 if you
are interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2727
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DD>On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
DD>series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and
am
DD>told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press
yo
DD>SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am
to
DD>6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
DD>out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Then you haven't called Starvector!  We use a good ol' iron horse Murata
desktop model.  She's standing by 24 hours a day, waiting for your call!
Give us a try @ 509-457-2966 any time.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2728
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2729
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

>>>>    All callers may download our catalog on the first call!    <<<<

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2730
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/30/93  9:09a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2731
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/30/93  9:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there,

    You advertised:
SPACE QUEST 4 = 25.00
KINGS QUEST 5 = 25.00

It says at top that you can beet any Advertised Price...  I found a deal that
lets these two games come together for about $35...  Can you beat that... Here
I'll give you the guys name and Number....

He is:
Doug Carpenter and his BBS number is (615)-479-1047...

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2732
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/30/93  9:26a
Subj: Space Quest 4/Kings Quest               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there Doug,
    I would like to know how you would like to be paid if Mike Shannon can not
beat your prices for Space quest 4/Kings Quest...  So please tell me if you
would like a money order and the totall cost CANADIAN would be..  (APROXX)...


Well get back to you in a few days.

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 2733
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/25/93  7:25a
Subj: Red Hot Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

    Hi Boris. I'm looking for virtually any programming CD's and this looks
    like about the most I'd pay. However, I don't know ANY of the available
    CD's. I got Source CD-ROM Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks. I'm
    particularly interested in C, C++, Clipper and dBASE files. My
    father-in-law is interested in Pascal. What kind of files (and their
    numbers) are on this and other disks? Looking to add 3 or 4 more to my
    collection. Thanx for any info....

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing a

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2734
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: MIX or MATCH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2735
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: CD SYSTEMS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mi